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I have several children. We used a baby sitter once. She was very frank and told us to be very cautious using baby sitters, especially from agencies. We didn’t go down that route again.

I think it's because kids are so fucking overscheduled. They don't need to be babysat at home because they're not at home. They're at swim practice or Chinese lessons or math tutoring or football or baseball or cheerleading or gymnastics or or or or or or orrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Purely my personal experience from a few years back: It's mostly stopped being something that you can pay a random local teenager $7/hr cash for, and turned into yet another gig-economy hustle job, e.g. urbansitter.com etc. In turn I suspect this is because high school kids are hugely overscheduled.

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You can find plenty of sitters, but they're going to be grownups touting their emergency first aid certifications and charging $20-30+ per hour. It adds up quickly.

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We sent email to the neighborhood mailing list asking if any teens wanted to just "watch" the kids after bedtime (8-11 PM). The only person who responded was unvaccinated.

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oof

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Oh boy

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Y I K E

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Yikes! I had a couple regular post-bedtime babysitting jobs as a teen that were the easiest money I've ever made—though I guess no one now is excited about the chance to watch cable or someone else's DVDs the way I was...

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Oh, yeah, and, perhaps obviously: Your available discretionary spending budget for things like babysitters is a function of your non-discretionary spending, which is a fancy way of saying if THE RENT IS TOO DAMN HIGH you're gonna skimp elsewhere even if you make six figures.

Yes I have. My answerrs Eitan Patz, John Walsh, and “Do you know where your children are?” We are less willing to trust others, and we have a generation of laws that make it harder for older kids to be allowed to be independent, let alone responsible for others

High School extracurriculars. Kids 15-18 aren't free on a random Thursday for babysitting, they're at a tournament with their traveling soccer team or at violin lessons or at ACT prep

It’s obv possible that people have moved too far in other direction wrt safety and qualifications but it feels genuinely insane that I used to, as a 12 year old, babysit 5 and 7 year olds. Before cell phones!!!! The parents would just leave the name and number of the restaurant they were going to

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Anyway I don’t think people do this anymore

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Wow, you got a number? I think I just got a name if I was lucky. (Of course, I usually stuck to babysitting within a two block radius of home, so I guess the parents figured if there was a real emergency, my parents would take over.)

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I might have gotten a name and the Yellow Pages tbh. “If there’s a problem look it up in here and call.” I was not in walking distance from my house (I remember bc the Dads driving me home was SO AWKWARD. Nothing even remotely bad just me being 12 like “uh should I make conversation?”)

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like. I babysat as a young teenager... but I wouldn't trust myself to babysit as an adult! it's wild in retrospect!

There is video after video on TikTok of people claiming they can’t go to child-free weddings because they have no family nearby and won’t leave their kid with a non-family babysitter. They seem afraid, but it’s wild how the parents, I guess, never go anywhere together without the kid.

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I am attending a solo wedding next year because my partner and I don’t feel comfortable leaving our daughter with a babysitter we’ve met off Facebook Marketplace or whatever. If she was older, maybe, but not when she’s just turned 2.

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I wasn’t meaning to criticize the choice. I just feel bad that you guys have to do stuff like that solo. My parents left me with my brother at age 12 for $2 an hour, which meant they went out without us all the time but that was probably not a great idea.

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It’s downstream of moving across the country to a big city for life/career opportunities; great in my 20s, but now that I’m a dad in my 30s it sucks not to have available family members for all kinds of help (not just babysitting)

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It seems like this is the issue for a lot of folks. And there’s no reliable 15 year old next door to babysit anymore, either.

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…By this I of course meant I am attending a wedding solo, not attending a wedding where someone is marrying themself.

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Which could also be fun tbf.

Noticed it. Few thoughts: Infantilizing of teens. Fewer teens interested in the gig. Decaying social trust + litigiousness. Also seeing a lot more grandparents taking regular babysitting duty among parents I know (was UMC more mobile a generation back? Fewer local grandparents then?).

UK based but we have only used family for baby sitting so far Partly because kids are still young but also feels like you want to leave them with someone you know in some way. Would be great to have a reliable baby sitter but almost feels unclear the best route to find one

I mean we do because I make really good money. Babysitter is $100 for four hours. One date night a week is $5000, or around $8000 of taxable income Remember that's before the price of the date

I feel like the age at which people think it’s ok to allow someone to do things alone or babysit is a factor. I was babysitting neighbors at 11 and it was normal for people to babysit at 13. A lot of people wouldn’t let someone under 16 or 17 babysit now. Also cost & knowing community less.

we (my wife and i) are fundamentally soft, is my take. (6 yo daughter that we maybe get a sitter for like 4 times a year)

My guess is that a big part of it has to do with smaller family sizes. When there are a bunch of kids at home the older ones get deputized to watch the younger ones, so having teenagers watch over young children is more normalized all around.

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Boomer/Gen X teens: "I watched my baby brother and changed his diapers for years." "Great! You have the experience to care for my child." Millenial / Gen Z teens: "I watched my baby brother and changed his diapers for years." "I'm so sorry, I will call child protective services at once."

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And that sort of thing quite possibly creates a ratchet effect lowering fertility rates overall. Preferences for smaller families lead to higher expectations for parenting lead to preferences for smaller families.

supply of teenage/college babysitters was already dwindling in about 2000 i bet it's still way easier to find somebody in small towns where you can really background a person i also think having to pick up or drop off a teen babysitter is considered more of a burden now

I think fewer people know enough neighbors. Also, just as a piece of anecdata, all the families on my street are like THE SAME AGE. I don't think there are any kids older than eight. So maybe in like five years, today's eight year old kids will be babysitting today's newborns or toddlers

I don’t hire a babysitter because I don’t have children, and probably won’t be able to afford a babysitter when I do eventually have them.

Kids won't let us?

Parents take their kids with them EVERYWHERE now. When I was a kid, my parents were eager to get rid of us LOL. I see little kids in bars now. It’s crazy. I think it’s an offshoot of helicopter parenting plus the expense and availability of babysitters.

Don't go out as much. Have movie nights in, etc.

In a word: community. My wife is an expert at identifying potential babysitters and getting in their good graces, but it's a constant challenge. The lack of community in modern US culture has been discussed in many places, but the core problem is that there are fewer opportunities to meet neighbors.

100% vibes based guess (tried and couldn't find data on this) but I think the increase in intensive parenting among upper middle class+ causes them to have lower trust in babysitters and other child caretakers. That and rising costs.

Teenagers aren’t allowed to babysit anymore because suburbanites became convinced en masse they were being gangstalked— sorry I meant abducted by human traffickers at the Target parking lot

my parents usually found someone trustworthy from church to do it, but we don't go to church, and our friends are either out of state or childless. most babysitters want a regular gig, too. that leaves family as our only option, and they're usually busy with our less fortunate siblings' kids

It’s been hard to find sitters, we haven’t had a regular one since she graduated from college

Ответ для Dalassa

We went the old fashioned route, member of our synagogue who was offered to us by her mom.

I dont have kids but when I was young it was not very common for the parents to brag that they never used babysitters but now it's practically an Olympic sport!! Also babysitters used to be a neighbor girl who was basically just there to make sure the rugrats didnt kill each other -- now rich people

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Expect a masters degree, a monetary bond, and a car that you're willing to drive the kids around in.

Honestly it’s hard to find one. We’ve done childcare trades with other parents, and there is sometimes events at the local soft play or a park where you pay $50-$100 for your kid to hang out for a couple evening hours.

we have very seldom gotten a babysitter, but I can't speak to the larger trend because I thought it was just us not getting our shit together. It's... hard to find somebody? the services are expensive and bad, the daycare teachers were always heavily booked, we couldn't find the right nearby teen.

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Amusingly, one of my childhood babysitters is now a professor in a psychology dept about an hour’s drive from where we live.

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If they’re non-tenure, perhaps they’re still available

They remember what the babysitters their parents hired were like...

The same way that ppl try to call CPS if a 12-yo is walking down a sidewalk alone, [UMC] society has decided that teen girls are no longer grown up enough to babysit, so the pool of potential babysitters has shrunk, and 18-yos aren't watching your kids for $20, a pizza, and whatever's in the freezer

change in societal norms from "a 14 year old is capable of watching 3 kids for an evening" to "a 14 year old can't be trusted to be in public unchaperoned"

Ответ для mtsw

Indeed

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More working moms who just want to stay in and have a quiet evening.

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The baby sitters club is a relic of a bygone age

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Also we didn’t know any 14-year-olds when our kids were younger. We did have a couple of college kids from my wife’s university babysit for a while. Then my mother-in-law moved near us and we had free babysitting.

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Yeah - Grandma's in driving distance and the two semi-full-time nannies we did have for a couple years basically moved on. The idea of trying to find someone and trusting them for like a one-off occasion doesnt see worth it.

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We found it a lot more difficult to find teenagers available and willing to babysit than my parents ever did.

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Kiddo's school had a baby-sitting course. They took it and started sitting at 13. Were able to focus on specific age/kid combos have a "never again" list and still made money. Set them up for later work as a tutor and now as an education assistant. Parents should support safe after-school jobs.

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For people reading this, the local Red Cross units often run a emergency/CPR life saving course for baby sitters. They usually know where the baby sitter groups that send people to the course are (often linked with a school).

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I wish I'd known that!

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see once we let the kids out of the mines and mills it all went downhill

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That's the one

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Tbh i think you’re underselling Baumol

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That the parents of the potential babysitters think this is part of the issue

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I also don’t totally buy the ‘babysitters are expensive now’ argument. I think they’re largely asking less, adjusted for inflation, than my babysitters got

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I mean I got paid $3/hour in the 90s, we now pay $20-25/hour. Inflation is bad but I don’t feel like it’s THAT bad.

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I was paid a few dollars an hour, and in one case only a dollar an hour because the parents were friends with my parents.

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I think another change is that when you eg go out for dinner you now often take your children with you. I think you’re correct too, but I think we also now live in both a more parent-friendly world and, if it’s not too much of a stretch, are encouraged to enjoy the company of our children more.

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Delivery being so common also makes it so you can eat out without going out. Same with streaming services.

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I looked into hiring a nanny and regretted not doing that when I was younger

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Also that 14 year old likely has 3 extracurriculars, 2 hours of homework a night, at least one tutor and their high school starts at 7:40am. Random weeknights are a strict no-go and by friday they're just as tired as you are.

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This is the answer. There just aren't that many kids between the ages of 15-18 that are at loose ends on a Thursday night anymore

Ответ для mtsw

My sister flew to London to be a travel nanny for ten days at that age, less than 25 years ago.

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Also, I think more isolated lives in general means we parents know fewer babysitter-aged teens. There was a good essay circulating on here about how we have fewer unrelated adults watching kids these days too because people don’t know their neighbors as well.

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Came here to say that: as babysitters we got jobs through neighbors or parents’ friends. Not sure those networks still work like that…?

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Also, I work remote. The only one of my colleagues who has a teenage kid lives in another country. Where/how else would I know people with somewhat older kids than mine other than from work?

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When I was 13-14, I used to babysit for an infant and a toddler for several hours at a time.

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i highly doubt it. we usually do $25/hr on the rare occassion we get a babysitter bsky.app/profile/cbow...

CB

I also don’t totally buy the ‘babysitters are expensive now’ argument. I think they’re largely asking less, adjusted for inflation, than my babysitters got

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it's possible that it varies a lot by both geographic area and social circle

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I did a bit of research and it seems that in the 90s (when I was of age to be babysat), teen babysitters were paid like $4 or $5 an hour. Inflation -> only $10-12/hr now, so it seems like much low-wage labor it's gotten way more expensive since then.

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In 2005, when I graduated high school, my sister charged $10 per hour per child for babysitting, and she was making fucking bank.

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And also possibly the demise of the expectation that teen girls were basically young mothers in training.

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The fact that millennials are continuing this trend makes me believe that millennials are actually everything bad that was said about us

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Exactly!

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We’ve got a 14 year old across the street that has agreed to babysit out six year old. The problem is the six month old - I don’t think we or her are as comfortable with that? I dunno, my wife and I were literally debating this 10 minutes ago.

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side note to this, do you think we trust a random adult our kid could encounter less than we used to? if I think about the when and where I’m ok with my kids going without me, I‘m making some calculation about who they could run in to

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Occam’s razor: It’s the TVs.

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smothering, helicopter parenting used to be something conservatives made fun of liberals for, now it's conservatives who think they should be allowed to escort school buses with an ar-15

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This is entirely possible, but when I was little, my parents were in a babysitting coop, they would watch another family's kid(s) and in return would have someone else watch theirs. All adults.

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I don't have kids, but all the people I've ever seen reference something like this are in their 70s. Is this a lost thought-technology?

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Probably because of fortnite

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I think that's more realistically a commentary on how adults are terrified and distrustful than it is about 14 year olds being less reliable, although to be fair those things aren't unrelated either. 14 year olds have always sucked, profoundly, we just stopped being willing to deal.

parents now pal around with their kids....older gens palled around with their own gen

I fit into that demographic. My wife contacted a local college about putting an ad on their jobs board and we found a qualified girl with her own car pretty quickly. She’s been our regular sitter for over two years, I can’t imagine not having her as an option.

Are you counting group day care as babysitting or not?

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I would say no because the purpose of daycare is so you can go to work, not the movies

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I don't know what current parents of young children are doing. In the 1980s-90s, I used "babysitters" much less than my stay-at-home mother did in the 1950s, but my kids were in group child care during the day. Total child care time is different from "babysitting."

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fwiw some of the replies are about concerns about group daycare and others are more like you, so I don't think everybody is using the term "babysitting " in the same way.

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I guess I would subconsciously categorise babysitting as for leisure (so optional) while daytime weekday daycare is so both parents can work (not optional, give or take personal circumstances and the financial demands of the city/country you’re in)

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1) neighborhoods age out; there are no teenagers on the block like back in the day. 2) the going rates for sitters these days make it cost-prohibitive. 3) as academics, we mostly used babysitting time when our kids were little to Be Productive, which is its own pathology, lol.

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I’d say this was a big factor around where my family lived—it was a relatively new neighborhood, and there was a cohort of like 20+ families that had kids over the same 15 years or so. That same neighborhood is now mostly retired people with occasional young families that moved in.

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I wonder how much of this is NIMBYism—because there are no butter new neighborhoods/complexes the kids are more geographically isolated from each other

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i think it's a neighborhood lifecycle thing—mine was new when my parents moved in, so lots of the families had babies at the same time—but stuff like prop 13 in CA certainly made generational turnover a lot slower than would otherwise have been the case.

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Also the phenomenon of "there's more to do at home now" means there are fewer situations in which the only fun option is going out and leaving the kids.

I think they are far more involved in their children’s lives and/or do more things with their children

Well, when I was a kid, my parents could find someone from down the street to babysit. Those options are much fewer now.

Fewer teenage girls do it. More options.

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And fewer teenagers around in general. People have been having one or two kids instead of three or four for at least a generation now.

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Right, smaller families means fewer oldest sisters who have been changing diapers and warming up bottles since they were 7.

Does the upper class go out less than they used too?

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People in general do, so probably

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Huh...I tried looking this up and the only thing I could find was a bunch of News site articles quoting a study by Emory and U of Minnesota which thinks the upper class goes out even less than everyone else. The link isn't working on any of the articles though. 1/2

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Here's a link to the Town and Country article (2/2): www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/arts...

Study Shows Wealthy People Spend Less Time SocializingWhy rich Americans spend more time alone than their low-income counterparts.www.townandcountrymag.com
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This article has more info.about the study and wasn't pay walked, still, the link to the main study is broken on this one too: www.businessinsider.com/study-wealth...

A new study finds there's a major difference between how rich and poor people spend their timeData from more than 100,000 people reveal how life can look very different depending on your income.www.businessinsider.com

Baumol’s cost disease?

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Not sure if the relevant working section of teenagers is really in that much competition for their labor from more productive sectors.

They know fewer people, especially neighbors with much older kids. I think when our younger one is 2 or so we will make a rule to always have a monthly date night, but we're probably going to end up hiring a sitter from an app or something.

I have totally noticed this as someone without kids (though I think it’s also very much linked to way fewer available babysitters/no one wants to leave a 14 year old in charge of little kids anymore)

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That 14 year old wasn’t allowed to be home alone until maybe a year ago too!

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When I was a kid in the 70s our school system used *high school seniors* as *school bus drivers*. My brother would get out of class early to drive the bus to the elementary school and pick up kids to take them home and then park the bus at our house at night.

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This was not a small system, either this was Wake County Public Schools Still in the top 10 in the country by enrollment, I believe

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This was before my time, but at no point in my lifetime would this be considered acceptable. Even now with the bus driver shortage. The insurance rates alone would be astronomical.

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That is peak 70’s USA, the seeding of the Simpson’s Otto archetype….

Possibly age is a factor. UMC typically means starting a family later, after uni, perhaps grad school, and establishing a career. Less desire to go out when you're around 40 compared to 25.

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This actually seems like it makes sense because almost none of my mid/late 30s friends have kids but they mostly are much less interested in going out a lot

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Yeah, it's this for us, i think. First kid at age 38, spouse and I have simple tastes, we were never into "date night," we like to stay in with pizza and a movie. On top of that, we like our kid and they grow up so fast, so if we all have free time we can... hang out as a family, chitchat, play Uno!

Like, my parents wouldn't let me babysit because they were worried the kid would fall on their head before I could stop them & I would somehow end up on trial for murder (I hit prime babysitting years around the time of the Louise Woodward trial) & many modern parents make mine look laissez-faire.

Absolutely the case, babysitters are very expensive now.

I think a while ago you’d hire the kid (usually girl) down the street and be off without giving a shit. Now the kids down the street are being babysat or over scheduled so we had to rely mostly on counselors and more expensive adults from after school programs who cost 20plus an hour.

Upper middle class parents have safety panic disease like crazy

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Also, a good babysitter probably has siblings and fewer kids have siblings

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I have noticed this with parents approx. 15 yrs younger than myself, mid-30s. We definitely took our daughter out to dinner with us when she was a baby and even a toddler, but also liberally employed our neighbor's kids as babysitters. It's weird to not have a life other than with your kids in tow.

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Not sure of the reason for this trend other than some neuroticism about leaving your kid with someone other than direct family.

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Yeah, as someone who has been on the fence re:kids, part of my hesitation is the absolute canceling I would get for not feeding into so much of the neuroticism around kid rearing - obviously there's safety considerations for so much, but I feel like people have swung into something unsustainable

1) too expensive because of 2) introduction of laws that give a minimum age of babysitter, usually old enough to get a proper job so they do that and 3) parents are way more panicky than previous generations and refuse to leave their kids even for playdates.

Interesting, this is the opposite of our experience? We go out maybe two times per month and have two regular babysitters. We used to have three, but one went off to university. All three are teenaged kids of friends/coworkers

UK, but my son is 13 and I don't think he's ever had a babysitter. I don't know if this is a church thing? Pretty sure our babysitters growing up were all responsible daughters of respectable people at church. (Including the hippie vicar's daughter who moved out to live in a vardo)

I also think there's a critical mass of parents to trade off babysitting duties. Not that many of my friends have kids

I legitimately just don't know how to. Like, how? I don't know. Can someone tell me?

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You gotta know someone. Which is the problem. If you don't personally know any responsible teenagers whom you'd be comfortable leaving your kids with for an extended period of time, you're basically SoL.

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The people my age who I know who use sitters mostly tend to have larger families and use someone in their family. Not having this is why we don't (and the kids around here who are an appropriate age are all pretty much busy doing baby sitting stuff for their families).

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Sometimes you can get away with "oh, could you watch my kid too?" but that's very hit-or-miss and depends a lot on the situation. I'm damn lucky that I have a mother in law who's willing to watch the kids one night a week.

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It was just easier to make to social connections back when everyone went to church. Much less so these days, even before you consider that the falling birthrate and the fact that most kids don't have experience taking care of a sibling mean there are fewer candidates, period.

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Nobody told me how

they’re just not available it seems, between general decline in the relevant population, alternative work opportunities, and general social mistrust on both sides

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Yeah i mean i would have to know people that have teen children and that want to do it. And I don't.

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So maybe cost + social atomization?

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on the rare occasion that we use one (like last night for Spider-Man woooo), we eat the cost of using one of her old daycare teachers rather than a local teen (not that we know of any anyway; we are transplants with limited family and friend networks here). nice peace of mind tho.

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There's a price dislocation happening - 20 bucks/hour (at least) which makes for 100+ increase in your night out, which is kinda too much, but much less than that makes it not so attractive to said teenagers. (not defending but this is what I experience/hear)

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We're talking upper middle class parents though. They can afford it.

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We can afford it, but it does feel a bit silly to spend as much or more on babysitting for a dinner-and-a-movie date night than for the dinner and movie themselves.

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Yeah, I get it. Our biggest hindrance was availability of willing teens, but it wasn't cheap

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In summer-time especially they're competing with the fast food/pools/movie theaters for teenagers old enough to drive. Younger teens still might do it (since they can't work those jobs), but I get the impression a lot of parents don't trust a neighbor's 14-year kid with their kid these days.

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maybe standards and prices have gone up Also parents are just more involved now, right? I take my kids to dinner, despite the option to get a babysitter , mostly because I like taking them to dinner.

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and more and more extracurriculars. Any teenager who’s even remotely trustworthy around your kids is definitely not available on Friday night because they’re going to some travel volleyball tournament.

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Thats another thing. The reliable kid is buried in too much homework and extracurriculars they hate in order to get into a college they can’t afford to get a job that can’t pay the bills.

My wife has a couple of saintly childless adult friends who watch our kids occasionally. but as far as the for-profit teenage neighbor babysitter I think the main thing is we don’t really know any.

Speaking as a former babysitter, I think nowadays many parents would hesitate to hire kids under the age of 14 to look after their children. I got my first regular babysitting gigs when I was 11. My first sporadic hiring was when I was about 9.

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Canadian, so wrong demographic. I absolutely baby sat as a teen. My kid took the babysitting course at school (at 12) and started sitting at 13. Was able to be choosy/avoid infants/kids who were "runners". Made coin. Probably related: our neighbourhood has kids who free range, shovel driveways.

Speaking personally, I just have my daughter's usual daycare provider babysit if we're going into the city for dinner and a show. It costs the same as it would to hire a local kiddo!

Absent any other reason, scarce labor is more expensive - teenagers have more going on so competition for reliable & available sitters is intense. Our local middle school offered basic training classes (CPR & other stuff) for kids so they could allay “what if” concerns; it’s not just a skills issue

I've definitely noticed it in myself, and I think it's 1. cost 2. do more stuff as a family and 3. we go out less (not necessarily in that order). my folks just did more stuff outside of the house without us, for better and worse.

probably because they have nannies?

Not economically feasible for most parents. Also, childcare standards are different. In the 1970s I used to babysit every kid on the block while all the parents went out to dinner. Fifty cents and hour. I was 11 years old, in charge of 8-12 kids at a time.

Not in the US but is it not other people having less kids & having them older? You can’t get your mates eldest to watch your two if they’re also 10

I'm in a babysitting coop 🤷‍♂️

So big picture it's due to a mix of tight labor availability and rising costs from what I understand, but anecdotally I've noticed is especially kids born during COVID, the parents want to spend as much time with them as they can, and among people who lost a parent this urge is particularly intense.

Daughter and friends did a babysitting course. But nobody is hiring 13yo babysitters anymore. Combination of a) they're seen as too young, b) parents don't go out as much, c) parents don't trust non-family, and d) harder for kids to advertise without word of mouth networks

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d) feels like something Nextdoor would potentially be really useful for...but unfortunately, Nextdoor is Nextdoor, I guess.

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I’d also feel bad about hiring a high-schooler so we can be out at a concert till midnight on a school night. The kinds of outing that we see as worth spending babysitter money for aren’t always friendly to teen babysitter schedules.

None of my friends who have kids use babysitters. It’s either daycare, grandparents, one parent stays home while the other goes out, or the kids come with.

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I guess this is like a lot of other “domestic service” kinds of things, economically! You can’t get teenagers to do childcare for the extremely modest amount of money our parents could.

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Yeah it should be noted these people all live in NYC/North Jersey

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In North Carolina, we can occasionally get an early evening teenager for an expensive-ish but reasonable price, but if we want to stay out past bedtime it's $30 an hour or more.

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(for a teenager, you can get CPR certified adults but that is even more expensive)

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I mean I did some occasional babysitting as a teen! It’s possible I made the kingly sum of 30 bucks for an entire night? I don’t remember. Gotta adjust for inflation, but still.

my stepdaughter used to babysit in Brooklyn, but it was already less prevalent then. where the long age-grading of American society cuts against the surge in class stratification.

Going to agree with those saying less social trust but I think parents face more pressure to be everything for their children these days? Like if you leave them with anyone else too much, you're a failure of a parent.

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Definitely seems connected to the reluctance to let kids be on their own, too.

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By which I mean doing activities in the neighborhood, etc. without the parent present, not like home alone (though that too seems less tenable).

Fewer reasons to go out with food delivery on the up, movie going on the down (particularly in the adult drama/comedy categories), new movies going early to home streaming, and events like theatre and concerts priced out of family budgets

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I’d also add (15y old data) that it was hard to find that 14yo who wanted to babysit for some cash when the local economy in our UMC “village” had generous allowances if not debit cards

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There are also few neighborhoods in the US where a young family with toddlers can afford to move across the street from a house bought 15y earlier by the parents of teens And w Boomers living longer, the teens are more likely to have retiree neighbors

We’ve hired the teenager who lives across the street for a couple of years. We pay her $15/hour. Unfortunately for us (but good for her!) she leaves for college at the end of the summer.

Parents speaking, and it’s really hard to find people to watch your kids in 2026.

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Second this. We didn't know anyone on the ground, and while we found some sitters through online services, it was always scattershot and they would become unavailable, etc.

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I was a babysitter when I was a teen, and it was great money. But I watched the kids across the street. We don’t have any teens across the street. Hell, getting family to watch our kids is tough. If my wife and I want to see a movie, we usually have to do so separately unless the kids can see it.

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This really is it. “Neighborhood kid that the parents know and trust and is also looking for work” tends to not exist in modern suburbia. Teens nowadays have a part time job plus extracurriculars.

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Or, travel sports + extracurriculars + more extracurriculars.

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Yep, I think this is spot on.

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I also babysat the neighbor kids when I was a teen. The first time I did it, the 4 year old bit my arm so hard it left a bite mark when I told him his parents told me he could only have one serving of caramel corn when he wanted a second. And that was the end of my babysitting adventure...

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This is what I’ve heard as a non-parent

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The networks for finding teens/non-family members you felt comfortable trusting are also vastly diminished.

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There is also statically less teenagers demographically. There’s simply no giant pool of lawn mowers or babysitters.

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I’ve genuinely heard parents being like “we have new neighbors and they have a teen, how great would it be if they connect us to some teens who will babysit”

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My wife and I are extremely lucky in that she works for a large, public university that has a daycare on campus where our children go. Many girls who study early childhood education work there as daycare aides and are always looking for some extra cash.

Baumol’s cost disease

I don't feel like I've observed this, but I might not be looking at it the way you mean. Can you give a bit more detail? Are you saying they stay with their children more often or that they rely on family members or the like?

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they go out less, or take their children with them when they do, and if they do have a sitter it's usually close family

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I'm barely middle class by current inflation rates but I can definitely vouch for that, even if I disregard the complete lack of expendable income there is a broad mistrust of hiring anything short of thoroughly vetted child care. We are definitely the adult products of the stranger danger era.

In my experience they’re just harder to find. More sports, more academics, seems like fewer teens are working generally. My parents would find babysitters in the neighborhood, I live in the same area as an adult and don’t know any local teens.

We get one monthly-ish. Wed do it more but It makes an already kind of expensive proposition (dinner out) that much more expensive. There’s also the challenge of in my town people guard theirs like sacred resources so it can be hard to get one.

I'm not (yet) in the market for babysitter services, so this is an off-the-cuff guess but: Baumol cost disease strikes again?

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maybe but my recollection is that our babysitters were mostly older kids from the neighborhood

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Kids still have Baumol tho

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Like yea they’re not working paid jobs at that age (mostly) but there’s still extracurricular activities that raise earning power long term via college admissions.

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Bigger shift is that people don’t hire 13 year old babysitters anymore

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I can't speak for parents of neurotypical kids because I never lived that life. But the idea of hiring a sub-17-year-old to watch my kids weird to me.

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It really depends on the specific kid; I know an eleven year old whom I would trust to watch my kids for 1-3 hours because they're *extremely* attuned to their needs and just "good with kids." There are thirty year old adults I know and personally like whom I would not trust the same way.

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Similarly I trust my 11yo on their own for an hour or two if I must. She’s got a phone and I wouldn’t be far away.

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My 13-year-old on the spectrum can be left alone at home But he still *very much* needs ASD supports, an IEP, an aid at school, AuDHD focused medications, etc.

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Yea, although if the pool of trustworthy neighborhood kids is more completely spoken for because of extracurriculars that seems like a subcase of the above

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IME that’s much less the issue than changing social norms about how old a babysitter needs to be to trust them with your kids.

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Anecdotally, my parents paid like $2-3/hr in the late 80s, which would be 6 or 7 bucks today. We pay our sitters $20/hr, so.. yeah.

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Techbros can fix this

Honestly if I ever have children I would avoid using babysitters that aren't family as much as possible because I had babysitters that treated me awfully as a kid.

I *hope* it's... dads

For us it was because family wanted to spend time with them, unlike my grandparents, especially because my mom and dad were married young. My grandma still had two kids at home when I was born. My sis-in-law watched them for choir practice and my mom took them every Fri and most other times.

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But my kids are both in their 20s now.

as others have said, hard to find them. we eventually found someone we like at the daycare . We may not use her when they’re older. it’s expensive, like $30/hr for two kids. So a night out goes to $400+. Honestly we use the sitter more for working late which I’m sure says something

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Separately we were just talking about how much more time our kids spend at indoor play places than we did. They go to playgrounds too, so it’s more that there is a bit more obligation to be with/ entertain them I guess. Like my parents would’ve told me to figure it out.

Going rate in NYC is $30/hour so movie date night just went from $40 to $200

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yeah, I tend to pay $20-25 an hour, and for a 6 hour date in the city, that's $120-150 before you're even out the door, on top of whatever you were wanting to do for said date.

We have a sitter (a woman in her early 20’s who goes to culinary school) who is great, reliable and almost eerily punctual and when I tell other parents this they look at me like I discovered Atlantis

Yes. My pet theory is teens are busier/booked more than ever in their “free” time so they’re not begging for babysitting jobs to make money like I was as a teen (especially before 15/16)

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I also think the generational spread affects word of mouth recs. If you’re a parent of a newborn, you mostly don’t know teens unless they happen to live next door. There aren’t many parent cohorts that overlap those two age groups

there's a section at the beginning of a barbara ehrenreich book where she is summarizing betty friedan, basically says the midcentury american middle class sanctified housework and childcare such that they were the richest people ever and also had no domestic employees

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from ehrenreich / fear of falling

true crime podcasts

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look I didn't wanna say it but I'm glad somebody did once I had kids I had to learn to automatically redirect my eyes when I parse the words "daycare operater charged with" because I don't need the rest of that headline in my life (and it's a pretty fucking common headline)

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A family member stopped doing child abuse prosecutions after children for the same reason. Might have even been because children were becoming a near term possibility.

in that income bracket their neighbors' teenagers are too busy optimizing sports and other extracurriculars to have a job and the full time pro nannies are happy to pick up date night shifts

Keeping my house in shape to have a sitter over is too much work. A lot of compelling answers, so I'll just add another minor one: kids who are hustlers are making their pocket change online instead: etsy, content, influencing, or automaton jobs

i think that there are a tremendous number of ways in which both social and legal norms have really outlawed the extent to which previous generations of parents used to be away from their kids. latchkey kids are more or less unlawful, and 13-year-old nonrelatives are not much more accepted.

I think covid had an effect. I noticed there was less babysitting a few years ago, but now I see the neighbor's kids watching other neighbor's kids more often.

seems that way to me but I also live in a city but grew up in the suburbs, plus cell phones…

Near me, the babysitters are busy with extracurriculars and/or jobs at the grocery store. Most of our social calendar is with other families and their kids anyway. Movies are the one thing where we’d get a sitter, but there aren’t that many movies for which I’m willing to spend that kind of money.

can't speak to the market, but I'll speculate that parental leave and flexible hours are making a difference. they are *definitely* making a difference in the story about baby matinees that kicked this off. lot of potential babysitters wouldn't be available in daytime

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also not you, but many of the people being judgmental about the parents in these stories need a crash course in minding their own damn business

The most responsible teenagers are extremely busy with other things.

People don't know their neighbors as well, and being exaggeratedly cautious about letting your kids out of your direct supervision is a signal for responsible parenting in many social circles (see: sleepovers).

Because they have nannies?

It's funny because pet sitting is very popular now. My parents generation just crated or kenneled their pets, depending on how long they planned to be gone, now people pay for a human to come to their house and hang out with their dogs. Or cats or birds.

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Tbf from what i understand about kennel costs these days I think that can come out to be cheaper especially if you would need someone to come round and walk the dogs anyways. Also I think the threshold for “can take care of a dogz” is a lot lower than “can take care of kids“

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True

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Yeah, pet sitting usually comes down to 'quick visit for daily foods, wellness check, play walk time' then the pet spends most of the time in house alone and is cheaper than moving a pet to a second location with full time workers

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Yea, I pet sit occasionally as well and it works out because I can WFH and it’s not a huge deal to come over as often as needed and bring my laptop

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I had to leave my puppy before he could get the parvo vaccine, so I had to pay a dog sitter to come every 4 hours and it was crazy expensive. I was thinkingit'll be much easier when I can put him in a kennel. But looked into it, it's not all that much cheaper!

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Yep. We do pet sitting professionally and the kennels are doing a great job making plenty of business for us! To be fair, not only are kennels very expensive, they are also often terrible. Nobody wants to lock their dog in a cage in a room with fifty other stressed out dogs in cages any more.

Having kids in cities - less neighborhood kids or grandparents around.

agreeing w the sentiments here- when I've been between FT jobs, i have found that as an adult with 20 years of childcare experience, references & certifications, i can make quite a lot of money babysitting because parents want all that and will pay for it (and act like they've won the lottery lol)

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but it also means most of them who aren't super wealthy don't use sitters for the random things I used to babysit during as a teen (church meetings and movie nights and all that) and it tends to be more covering for FT nannies, big events, stuff like that

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and i think the extreme costs of daycare now have desensitized some people to handing me wads of cash for a stress-free evening out lol

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All of this. Definitely my thinking as a parent.

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We use our daycare teachers as babysitters for all these reasons and bc our kids know them and are happier to be left with them. But it can be hard to find someone available. And they live far enough away that we pay for cars so they don’t have to metro late. It adds up, so we only do it rarely.

No kids, but my UMC friends with kids only hire people with CPR certifications and other credentials, which makes it very expensive. I was babysitting by 11 or 12, like most of my friends, and though I won't say that was optimal, we had younger siblings and knew the basics. And we were cheap!

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Also, we were given responsibility that young, latchkey kids and all that, walking to and from school alone by age 6. Nowadays 12 yo kids are seen as needing babysitters themselves! Tweens and teens are more parented, less parentified.

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As I think more about my tween and teen babysitting, I realize that another factor not really discussed in this thread is parental awareness of the risk their *babysitter* kids might be in from client dads. Funny how I memory holed those sketchy vibes and experiences, and I was overall very lucky.

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My kid took the red cross babysitter course at 11, which includes CPR and first aid

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Mine also, at 12 and started sitting a year later. Was a good gig. They mostly sat within walking distance of our house or folks would pick them up/deliver them home. Mostly people we knew, but sitters would call each other to vouch for "new" parents if schedules weren't working.

It’s a chicken and egg problem. The kids don’t go outside because other kids aren’t outside. The adults don’t go out because their kids are home.

To the other explanations here I would add that people go out less in general. That’s the context for a lot of social phenomena, eg friendships (fewer), pets (more time with them), remote work. The parents can also stream something and the kids can stream something(s) else simultaneously.

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Ya “it costs 20 bucks to leave the house” is underrated as a heuristic for a LOT of stuff. Especially if you are likely to need to uber

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Ya the combo of food delivery apps and high quality household entertainment makes it easy to just stay at home

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Not even strictly about money so much as convenience and peace of mind viz. how the kids are doing when you go out to dinner etc

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yea, this is Baumol both ways-going out is more expensive because labor costs go up and so is a sitter. In conclusion, the tendency of the rate of profit to fall rules everything around me

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I think it’s more that staying home is a lot more appealing than it was a generation ago, for both work and leisure.

The general atomizing effects of covid means that many people don't know the neighborhood kids, who are traditionally the main source of babysitters

More exposure to true crime/child abuse stories and associated paranoia

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Same reason kids can't be outside alone anymore

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I think there's substance here. I babysat my siblings & lots of my parents' friends' children by age 13, but by the time I was a parent, we strictly used grandparents & other family members. The wooden spoon video that was on news broadcasts nationwide traumatized a generation of young parents.

Echoing everyone about difficulty of finding someone and the pull of just staying home. I also think a lot of gentle parented kids in the current generation aren’t good at bedtime with babysitters (my kid definitely included).

Low trust. Same reason parents don’t want kids to go to sleepovers at other people’s houses

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unlike parents, we both work fulltime and send our kids to daycare and feel worse about getting them babysitters, too.

I'd guess that at least some part of it is that everyone wraps themselves in sport utility vehicle the second they leave the house now so how would they even know if there were a 17 year old nearby who needed some cash

More of a stigma on using teen girls as cheap/free childcare and safetyism.

We had a really hard time finding babysitter recommendations from our network because most of our friends had never used them. Our parents were just finding a neighborhood teen for the job

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A lot of these answers focus on the supply side (pros expensive, teens leaving the market) but IMO there's also a demand side factor: millennials want to be around their kids more and they're not going to boozy parties or other adult events you'd get a sitter for as much as earlier generations.

The house hasn't been tidy enough to let someone not related by blood in since March 2020.

We have family nearby so we never needed a babysitter per se, but in contemplating this post I realized I'd be terrified for my girls to be babysitters in a relative stranger's house. Too many "adult man preys on babysitter" situations in my head

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To be clear I don't think it's actually that risky, but I thought "[Kids] aren't that far away from babysitting age" and mentally balked in a way I wasn't anticipating.

It’s really hard. I have no qualms about having 14- or 15-year-olds babysitting and pay full adult rates, and even so it’s not easy to find sitters

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Yeah seems like teenagers are less interested in baby sitting.

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They do have very scheduled lives, plus also where I live, their parents probably give them enough allowance that I’m not sure they need to babysit.

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Between western Avenue and the beltway? That’s for sure.

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Ahhh bethesda, grew up there mostly

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I'm shocked I had to scroll so far to find this answer, but maybe that's the Bluesky algorithm? The ones you would trust to babysit are not interested because babysitting doesn't help get them into college, while the ones who have time might not want to work or might not be trustworthy or reliable.

People used to trust teenagers to do this and now they don’t! It means it’s harder to find someone in your neighbourhood, and harder to find someone willing to do it for a bit of pocket money rather than a real wage. www.theatlantic.com/family/archi...

Don’t Tell America the Babysitter’s DeadFor decades, sitting was both a job and a rite of passage. Now it feels more like a symbol of a bygone American era.www.theatlantic.com

When I was a kid the only requirement for a babysitter was that you could stay awake and dial 9-1-1 I suspect the bar is a bit higher now and the wages accordingly

Well I’m an outlier I guess but my kids both babysat by teens and as teens babysit (they both did safesitter classes at Red Cross, primarily friends kids but tween is looking to advertise via drop flyers w listed references!) it’s 1995 up in here

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My kiddo took a babysitter course at their school. School was Canadian, but still. Crew of sitters (mostly girls) trading clients, vouching for each other (and for the sat kids) and managing their after school/weekend schedules. Useful life skills learned/money made!

I made good use of babysitters in my time and never was into bringing my baby to the bar or other adults-only venture. and my kids are 10&14 now so they’re more or less cool left by themselves. but look, it adds $60-100 to your night. I get it

I mean most parents work full time, while kids are w daycare or teachers 40+ hrs/wk, now so they want to spend their non-work time w their kids. At least us anyway

Don't know if this is also true in America, but are parents older than they used to be? I'm sure if I'd had kids in my 20s I'd have had more drive to find someone to look after them so I could go out.

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Definitely. Also, places like restaurants and sporting events are becoming more family friendly. To the point that venues enforcing a "no minors" policy will usually get complaints, even if it's just common sense.

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Yeah good point.

No need for a babysitter when my retired parents live 15 minutes away

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This "15-minutes away" grandpa agrees.

You'd think it'd be easier this gig Economy landscape

friend of mine in highschool started a sitting job for about a week and then quit immediately when the kid misbehaved one day because he had no idea what to actually do and the parents weren't helpful at all and made him unbelievably stressed out. kid was 8 or 9 iirc. really funny at the time

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we called him the white devil and for the life of me i cant remember what the kid actually did misbehavior wise to earn that nickname

for us, it's mostly an availability issue - we can afford it but it's been incredibly difficult to find someone who is reliably available and especially if you need someone last minute you're usually SOL

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I have friends who put in the work and iteration to find a reliable babysitter that they can keep going back to and they are like living gods to me, I am in awe

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Sourcing is a huge challenge. You gotta know someone, have some evidence or a friends testimonial of them being good enough w age appropriate kids. Likely easier when IRL social networks (church, office, neighborhood carpools etc) existed in greater number/density

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People having fewer kids = fewer older kids available to babysit.

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Agree with this — parents need a network of friends/family they can trust. When I was in high school I babysat. Most of my clients were my parents’ friends or co-workers

It’s just much harder to find people imo. this is something that classified used to be good at - it’s the perfect kind of job to post for in that platform on both sides. its one thing Craig’s List or Facebook marketplace didnt replace

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Classifieds* as in newspaper classifieds

Babysitters are $$$

Two fold of teens may not be as responsible as they were in the 80s / 90s paired with rampant misinformation on how dangerous the world is leading to more people not wanting a teen to babysit their kid, cratering the supply demand levels needed for affordable baby sitting

even towards the end of millennials it was on the decline. I was a kid in the 90s / early early 2000s, and I can't recall ever having a babysitter? the few times I was left with someone else while my parents were gone, I was dropped at a friend's house.

I have no idea how I'm supposed to find and vet a 14-year-old.

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No neighbor kids? No coworker with a kid the right age? No one you know use babysitters? No apps like Care in the area that do vetting?

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For various reasons, no, except possibly the last one.

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That sucks :/ and I know the apps can be a bit pricy since they are generally adult pre school teachers and such

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Also, I, too am extremely unimpressed with this timeline

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One day I'll come up with something clever to use as a handle but until then I doubt I'll become much more impressed

Yeah I babysat for 3 kids, ages 4-9 when I was 13, but I feel like that would be considered irresponsible parenting these days. The friends I have with kids don't seem to use them much either, including the reciprocal token schemes my parents used a lot.

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It seems like a combination of people being more nervous about leaving their kids with people they don't know super well and concern about disrupting kids routine

Grew up upper middle class, graduated from high school in the late 1960s. I was regularly babysitting for the walking-distance neighbors by the time I was 12. Of course, my mom was nearby, but I was responsible for making dinner & getting the kids to bed. That would be unheard of Tory.

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so you can get a professional, well-vetted babysitter for $$$; or call in grandma for free; but we simply don’t have a backlist of responsible teenagers in our lives to draw upon for the classic cheap babysitter experience (in the past one found these teenagers through church mainly!)

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The teenagers simply are not available! I don't have kids, but I have this issue with pet/house sitting. All the responsible teens are in 2+ afterschool activities like travel baseball or competition choir. They have no time to get paid $$$ to sit in my house for a few hours, unfortunately.

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Not a parent yet, but I do know I can't find anyone to reliably show up and take twelve minutes a week to mow the church grass, and I suspect it'd be harder to find a trustworthy kid-watcher

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It's just got relatively more expensive hasn't it (it's still one babysitter per house....)

Babysitters now make well above min wage now tbh and maybe they deserve to but you can’t pay that rate every week.

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2) childcare is absolutely messed up. We could not afford routine baby sitting because a rate for watching four small kids started at $40/hour and could be more. There’s a base rate and then an upcharge per extra kid. A four hour minimum outing for something like the Odyssey is cost prohibitive.

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Apologies for that double now, it’s too hard to delete and repost to fix it lol

fewer long-term local connections for us

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Yeah this is it. I grew up in the greater DC area, and moved to the Boston area for work, so I've had to rebuild social networks from scratch. I don't exactly meet very many teenage girls within my normal social circles. I know boys can babysit too, I don't meet very many teenage boys either

For sure have noticed. As others have pointed out, standards for babysitters are far higher now. People expect a college student or older, not the 12 year old who lives down the street. Which means it‘s more expensive.

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But I’ve also noticed that some people do not trust anyone with their kids except family, and sometimes not even then. I’ve spoken to several parents at my kid’s school who won’t let their parents (the grandparents) watch their kid unsupervised.

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I’m sure some concerns are warranted, but I feel like there’s some influence from the genre of TikToks about how you should never let your kid go to sleepovers or be in a room with any adult ever.

I think childhood experiences as or with babysitters are that they’re more or less useless anyway and there‘s less kids around in that age group in absolute terms than there used to be.

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Everyone who’s been a babysitter: I sat around and did nothing and/or actively caused problems because I didn’t know what I was doing

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Useless for the kids, sure, but everyone could use a night off sometimes and it seems not great if parents feel pressure not to have one because a babysitter warming up leftovers and throwing on a movie isn't good enough for their kids.

Cost Helicoptering

We do a lot more social stuff with our friends who also have kids the same ages. When we use a sitter it's for my wife and I to go to a nice dinner or see a movie, only two or three times a month usually

UMC people think that only someone with a masters degree in early child development can be trusted with their kid during date night at the local Thai joint I am dead serious, I have called out my sisters for talking like that while we were routinely watched by neighborhood teenagers as kids

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Every time my husband and I think "we should get a sitter and go out for the night!" we then do the math and change our minds. We have neighborhood teenagers babysit our kids but they still charge $20/hour. Plus dinner and a movie are also much more expensive now! So we stay in.

I've seen it to the point that the people I know who do get sitters are "manager at Amazon corporate" levels of rich. Merely working in finance or Big Tech doesn't seem to be enough.

I don't think parents do things without their kids anymore

I wrote about this from Boulder which is very upper middle class but also tends toward an early-to-bed crowd and found it to be a mix of lack of sitters (for those who don't have nannies) and profound need for control bsky.app/profile/cour...

Courtney Tenz

Long live the teen babysitter! www.romper.com/parenting/is...

it’s too expensive

North America's car-centric, sprawled infrastructure has created a society with less and less social friction over time. the internet was the final tipping point for this, & the average family does not have a kid they can call up to see if they can babysit. also related, helicopter parents

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related, meaning that this has created a world where parents need to manufacture the social lives of their children, putting them in charge with bias towards activities that will lead to a financially enriched life, which with modern sensibilities does not service/hospitality oriented work

A lot of high earners have moved, for work, to a city where they don't know anyone. So they don't have the informal connections via which people typically found babysitting, particularly no connection with lower income people who typically did the babysitting.

Paranoia

yes, and my guess is that it happened for the same reason that they stopped letting kids have sleepovers

Ответ для 🌿

Is that a wider thing, too? My kid was never interested and resisted our lobbying for it

Ответ для Jon

yeah, lots of parents these days don’t allow them

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Weird. We were happy doing family activities and limiting sitters to when we had grandparents though. Only one kid and we both work so family time is valuable. Especially since time to being an empty nester feels like it’s approaching way too fast

Ответ для Jon

But we did encourage (mostly unsuccessfully) playing in the neighborhood and suggested sleepovers. The kid was the bigger limiting factor! We trained time home alone by going to a super nearby pickleball court. That worked at least.

We don't really use babysitters all that often for a few reasons: 1. We like hanging out with our kid, so we take him to the events we go to and always bring him on vacation with us. 2. His grandparents are often available to watch him when we are going to a more adult-themed event.