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Wikimedia Foundation just fired a long time lead developer of MediaWiki as well as its entire community team for unionizing. If you’re a donor, email donate@wikimedia.org to protest this move. medium.com/@jakeorlowit...

Big Tech’s Anti-Labor Playbook Has Come for WikipediaTLDR: In ten days last month, the Wikimedia Foundation fired the longtime lead developer of MediaWiki and disbanded the team whose entire…medium.com
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Emailed and will not be donating again without reinstatement and a public apology

Firing workers for unionizing, or even talking about unionizing, is a violation of the National Labor Relations Act Sec. 8. Refusing to bargain collectively in good faith with a union is also a violation of the National Labor Relations Act.

Ответ для Rowan the Fox

Unfortunately the penalties for that are the NLRB telling the offending party "hey cut that out" and putting up a sign in the break room about it. That's it.

Ответ для Cowbo Bebo at his Computo

As Starbucks so helpfully showed us, the penalties also include fines and being forced to reinstate the terminated workers with back pay.

I sent an email and got the following response:

Ответ для emi

I received the same answer!

Ответ для cmkm 🪻 (c. meador)

Wanted to sign but apparently T-Mobile users are IP blocked???

Ответ для 🌸 Belle @ sleep deprivation 🌸

I've raised that concern. Don't know if it'll help but at least the solidarity group is aware of it.

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Please note that you can protest in ways other than cancelling, which the union has not requested: medium.com/@jakeorlowit...

Thinking of cancelling your Wikipedia donation? Don’t. Read this first.You’re right to be furious about the layoffs, but walking away sends exactly the wrong message.medium.com

Just cancelled my monthly donation, citing this article

I'm not a donator any longer.

I’m on it

Awful news

Just emailed them!

Sent email to protest. This is unacceptable. Will not donate until they do something about this.

And there comes the obligatory PR disaster 🙄

oh fucking hell i literally just foubd out about and got the app

Sent

Wow, this has far reaching implications that Wikipedia is now at odds with what the community always believed it to be. So glad everything is Creative Commons and can be saved and posted elsewhere.

well so much for donating again

God fucking dammnit, wjen does shit start to get better

Ответ для pikkypro

After we organize a revolutionary overthrow of capitalism

I've sent emails on that address, and on some other Wikimedia Foundation email I found. I wonder if I can actually file a chargeback to Visa/Mastercard...

I had already stopped donating because of their LLM policies (they let companies scrape Wikipedia instead of suing the fuck out of the companies scraping). This just further confirms my judgement of the management and their priorities. Which is sad.

Wikipedia editors have put together a hub for solidarity actions with the union here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped... I would encourage anyone who has been an active participant in a WMF project to sign that pledge and watchlist that page.

Wikipedia:Wiki Workers United solidarity - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org

is it legal in the US to fire people for unionizing? that's insane

Ответ для Seios Luminosos do Homem-Aranha

Short answer, yes

Ответ для Seios Luminosos do Homem-Aranha

I mean, it's illegal to put it in writing, "we are officially firing/retaliating at you for protected union organizing", but short of that? basically legal

Ответ для Seios Luminosos do Homem-Aranha

they can SAY they're firing you for whatever reason they want, or no reason at all. they don't have to admit it's for unionizing, and most of them won't because while it's not technically *illegal* it is against NLRB regulations (which are not laws). but there are tells.

If anyone needs inspiration: ​"As a long time donor of Wikipedia, I'd like to politely ask why this community funded foundation is engaging in anti labor practices and union busting. ​This is NOT how I thought my donations would be used. I'm withholding donations until the this stops and..." 1/2

Ответ для Rafael C

... the fired union organizers are reinstated. Unionizing is the most sacred rights of workers and firing people to prevent unionizing is against the law in most countries that sign the ILO Conventions. I expect higher standards from you." 2/2

Ответ для Rafael C

Thank you

Ответ для Rafael C

Also just consider a short "No cash for unionbusters"

sent. this is disappointing. and a bit frightening to be honest

Ответ для 🏳️‍⚧️ MatchaZed 🏳️‍⚧️
Ответ для Usagi Lover

Emailed 'em. If this doesn't change, they'll lose my regular donation.

Ответ для Usagi Lover

tbh Jimmy has nothing to do with this

Ответ для Usagi Lover

Fandom was sold to private equity in 2018. Wales was barely involved with it even before that.

Ответ для 🏳️‍⚧️ MatchaZed 🏳️‍⚧️

Does Jimbo still even have any authority there?

Ответ для Aletheia Silverblade

unsure, but they still plaster his fucking Zionist face on the site everytime they need money

can i have my donation back now 😔

I think people should make backups of wikipedia's articles and host it, so wikimedia knows they don't have a monopoly on being wikipedia. Maybe we'll get a federated wikipedia alternative out of that.

Ответ для KateYagi

I unfortunately don't like the idea of a government run centralized source of information anymore than union busting.

Ответ для Homie Koyomi

Unless I'm miss understanding what federated means. Which is entirely possible

Ответ для Homie Koyomi
Ответ для violeta

You're all wonderful for assuming that I wasn't speaking from a place of bad faith, because I did have the wrong idea and I appreciate everyone politely correcting me :) now I know for next time.

Ответ для Homie Koyomi

Understandable misunderstanding, but nah I mean federation as in websites using protocols to interoperate, like Email, Activitypub (mastodon, misskey, some blogs, etc...) or AT Proto (bluesky) So like imagine if wikipedia was a bunch of different wikis that linked up and ya just needed one account.

Ответ для KateYagi

Yee another reply explained where the wrong idea came from, that's absolutely a fantastic idea and a whole heartedly agree. I think almost everything could benefit from being like that.

Ответ для Homie Koyomi

"Federated" in this context means the opposite of what you described. A decentralized service made up of many independent but interconnected pieces, e.g. the Fediverse.

Ответ для Laurentide

Thank you!

Ответ для Homie Koyomi

That would be "federalized" or "nationalized", not "federated". English is a silly language

Ответ для Jackson

Anybody trying to learn it as a second language has both my respect and admiration because we really do just be out here saying things. Stuff sometimes even.

Ответ для KateYagi
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Oooooooooo! And I just bought a metric butt-ton of external storage, too…!

Ответ для KateYagi

Host it… using MediaWiki?

Ответ для Barry Norton 🌈 ♾ 📚

Well mediawiki is open source on a GPL2 licence, if wikimedia tries to mess with that forks can be made.

Ответ для KateYagi

I’m more worried about it losing maintenance. Most successful OSS forks have financial backing.

Ответ для KateYagi

people already do, but then you *have to look after it*

Last year there was the Kayla Mae case. www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/06/tran...

Trans former Wikimedia employee says abuse at the nonprofit is "organization wide" - LGBTQ NationThe employee is suing for wrongful termination.www.lgbtqnation.com

Email sent! This is unacceptable really

I already got a response to my protest email. Keep it up, you're getting results.

reminded me of this quote from one of their recent fundraising emails lol a solid contender for the understatement of the year

It's OK, grokipedia has you covered /sarcasm

It's not much but I just canceled my monthly donation. They won't get it back unless they do a complete backpedal and apologize.

I’m an avid Wikipedia editor with over 120,000 edits done. Do you know who’s best to contact to tell them I’ll quit editing over this?

Ответ для SimHuman
Ответ для jenny (phire)

Joining, thank you!

Ответ для jenny (phire)

editor strike > donor boycott

Ответ для SimHuman

For what it’s worth, thank you for doing that work

God dammit, and my recurring donation just went through. Ugh... time to cancel that.

Ответ для Lizardguy | check pinned post

Well nevermind, I got a refund... crazy, huh?