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If you're an indie developer, you should hang this screenshot on your wall and use it as inspiration to never give up

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Bruh, I saw this posted on Twitter and every single commenter was like “Well, it’s a rare case” or “It’s still a bad game” 😭

I think the second lesson here is that reddit fucking sucks

haters will never prove you wrong with their success, they just be hatin' for the sake of hating.

The thing to remember is that modern tools are mature enough, and there are so many cheap or free resources and code snippets available, that you can make your fun idea exist and iterate on it almost for free. Keep your day job until you're ready to look for funding

This is also further proof that people on reddit are consistently wrong about everything and have been for ages. Source: I used to use reddit. I then gained sentience. I stopped using reddit.

Man. If this shows you one thing, and one thing only, it's that gamers sure do have their finger squarely on the pulse. They just cut straight through the bullshit to show their asses at any occasion.

The first reply was constructive at least. But like... what problem does that one user have with cartoony 2D platformers??? Those are awesome!! And the fact it has the hand drawn aesthetic makes it so unique the platformers that usually use pixel art.

Let me add this" if you're an indie *in any field*... " @teamcherry.bsky.social is really an inspiration

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imagine getting so fucking OWNED

lesson here is reddit nerds dont deserve good things

This is why I stopped posting to Reddit!

Hollow Knight is actually my third-favourite game (between Death Stranding at #4 and Deus Ex: Human Revolution at #2). :)

lesson learned: never interact with reddit

Geez I get how one would say it looks meh at the time, but they really didn't need to be mean

Big fan of this reply

Ответ для OnlySmiles

Bruh

Ответ для DeLisi

Like it's one thing to express cautious optimism and I think people did have a point about making a game in a really oversaturated genre, but a lot of these replies feel outright spiteful And it's not like they're being downvoted either

Ответ для OnlySmiles

I think every genre is oversaturated, but I also think Hollow Knight showed up during a time when ppl were begging Nintendo for more Metroid and starting to get bored of pixel art. So I think it was meeting a demand

Ответ для OnlySmiles

most reddit reply thread i've seen

Ответ для OnlySmiles

we know they are right, because they are being downvoted to hell. also the person just roasted the 100% of AI people on sites like deviantAI. based comment.

Otro día más en la rueda del hamster.

What the actual fuck is wrong with those comments???????? Buncha heartless pricks!

>r/gaming There are landfills with less trash

Ответ для Dalton

The amount of trash in a subreddit is directly proportional to its size.

Ответ для retrodotcards

so basically all of it

Ответ для Freyja Marika

Was gonna say

Ответ для Dalton

r/gaming 🤝 /v/ hating video games

I feel like this is a good thing to see for anyone brave enough to put their creative project out there for others to buy/play/use/enjoy. I certainly needed to see it to day.

the lion doesn't concern himself with opinions of redditors

Balancing risk taking aside, this post made me feel better :)

It might see play once Polukranos rotates

common reddit L congrats to everyone out there simply trying ☺️

My kingdom for a high res copy of this image.

Also Dust: An Elysian Tale Dean Dodril had no industry experience but working on the Jazz the Jackrabbit games but still managed to make a masterpiece with some of the most beautiful 2D animation there nearly by himself with only the music, VA work, and script editing delegated out.

Moral of the story: Reddit users are always wrong

We want everyone to live their own dream life! ♥️ We agree, never give up!

yeah... just yesterday was released 40+ videogames and guess what, pretty sure no one of them are giong to get the expected money. Is not that simple. Also Hollow Knight was published in 2017 when the market was much different Dont quit your job if you are not sure you can get money with indie games

Ответ для Scalions Studios

Oh you absolutely shouldn't quit your job

Ответ для St1ka

sure. updated information. He left his job because was FUNDED on kickstarter. I'll recommend to anyone that if you get 57k$ in your campaign yes, leave your job and make a great game too.

Incels are painful

tbh the idea I have is extremely niche and it's more of a "I've played too many of these games and they get a lot of things wrong" situation where I'm the only one who cares.

Ответ для Oscar Zeta Gundam

Sounds like you should turn it into reality

Ответ для St1ka

I'm thinking of installing Godot every other day, one day I'll probably do something even if it's a simplified version of that.

Ответ для Oscar Zeta Gundam

Godot is so cool. You don't even install it! You just double click it and it goes. Extremely low barrier to pop it open and mess with it, give it a shot!

Ответ для Oscar Zeta Gundam

my dream game is an open world survival craft where the wolves act like real wolves ie you don't even see them most of the time because wolves do not want to get into a fight with people. (equally in the water terrain the sharks will be largely harmless but watch the fuck out for jellies.)

Ответ для Oscar Zeta Gundam

finding a niche is important! you're more likely to find an audience compared to a crowded market

Ответ для SeeroftheNight

Especially if you *know* deep in your bones that the previous attempts to do what you're doing fell short in specific ways that you're dead sure you can fix. If you're doing something the right way the first time, that's a success waiting to happen. That is a void being filled

Ответ для Oscar Zeta Gundam

Here's the thing about making stuff: if you want to be a "serious successful" creative you should make a ton of small things until you understand the craft to make bigger things, but also, if you got an itch in your heart that's way to ambitious for your skill, fuck it, try to make it anyway.

Ответ для Oscar Zeta Gundam

Even if you only find a small audience you're in a better position than most trying to do what Team Cherry did. They pulled from many sources of inspiration from the Metroidvania subgenre (and related subgenres) and nearly perfected it. That is much harder than discovering and filling an open niche

Ответ для "Cool Zone New Year" was meant to be a joke

Also cosigning @dwoboyle.com's recommendation to start with small modules (e.g. small-scope minigames or micro-projects that you can crank out in a week) and build up from there

Ah, those comments... I hope those guys never left the cave they belong too. Or even better, they did and humble up.

How where people suppose to know that was the best Metroidvania ever created.

You can also use it as inspiration to never use Reddit, because it’s fucking terrible and a waste of energy to engage with

I used to hate reddit but nowadays I use it more, some boards have real nice helpful people (like audio production stuff) but there's a LOT of assholes, specially in hobbyist communities and even more in gaming :(

Ответ для Leobardo

I used r/tipofmyjoystick recently to try and remember an extremely obscure game I played. Someone was able to get it correctly first try. O.O

Ответ для RoboRob - Mystery of the Sky Temple dev

there's some nice people there, probably a lot of folks that used to hang in forums and etc, but they're minority in comparison to trolls, assholes and bots but it's pretty cool to come across the good folks! what game was it?

Ответ для Leobardo
Ответ для RoboRob - Mystery of the Sky Temple dev

whoa! I didn't know it existed, what a trip! nice

Ответ для Leobardo

I got it in the $5 bin at walmart or target or somewhere like that back in the 90s. Lots of weird games for $5 back then.

Ответ для RoboRob - Mystery of the Sky Temple dev

You, shot at the virus with vaccine balls? Really vague memory from a review. 😁

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Ответ для Leobardo

Its really the smaller subs that feel more like real forums and are nicer to be in

Ответ для Leobardo

General rule of thumb is that any subreddit with over 50,000 people on it will exponentially get worse every thousand people, and if you are in one of those that are for a game or a show, just look at the fanart.

These reddit comments make me so sad. I recently started an indie 2d platformer project, it'll take years to finish if I ever finish it but I dont care, its what I want to make and people who want it will want it. I hate the idea of people shitting on a game idea just because the genre is common

Ответ для Iris

Maybe this is naive but I think the passion of the developer for what theyre making is the most important part in a quality game. You can tell when it was made with love

Ответ для Iris

Absolutely!

Having the courage to show your game online is hard because we're sure to read these kinds of comments. Seeing this image made me really happy right now :)

As someone who’s been trying to work on a 3D platformer from scratch, I needed this.

Ответ для Koren Lesthe 🐾🐊 Turrican Scrolls Online

...Wait, which comment is the "Oh god wtf" specifically referring to?

Ответ для Jarkes, CEO of Juna and Odette

All of them I think

My current aspirations lie outside gaming, but... Thank you. I needed that.

Well that was an emotional roller coaster.

I literally never played, nor watched HK, and yet I know it. and I absolutely love the character designs and the atmosphere.

Oh, I wish....

Father speaking to his son: "Don't give up on Basketball, son! Kobe Bryant never gave up!" Miserable people:

Ответ для St1ka

Yeah, i get why folks are skeptical about indie unicorns like hollow knight and stardew valley, but like We are allowed to have hope, and to celebrate and be happy when things work out well for some developers Not everything needs to be doom and gloom all the time

Ответ для St1ka

Me to these people:

Ответ для Higher Than Onix

negativity is what an idiot calls realism.

Ответ для St1ka

you really need to let this go

Ответ для SeeroftheNight

Yeah. I just saw that airplane way too many times haha

Ответ для St1ka

tbh saying this as someone who has followed your channel for a bit now and liked the original post seeing you make a bunch of posts complaining that some game developers didnt like your inspirational tweet is a really bad look. I don't care if they're misinterpreting you or your intentions or w/e

Ответ для SeeroftheNight

Yeah, that's fair.

Ответ для St1ka

Dang. Kobe threw a lot of basketballs at that plane!

Ответ для St1ka

"Half of luck is skill." I can't remember where I first heard that, but the more I think of it the more I agree. Hollow Knight was lucky, but only because it got made. Anything that isn't made can never be lucky.

Ответ для TeddyArgentum Lives!

Skill makes luck stick

Ответ для St1ka

yeah, but is that wrong?

Ответ для St1ka

I think what you're leaving out is that Kobe Bryant was 6'6". You can be as skilled at the game as he was, but if you're 5'4" you're not making a career out of it. His height combined with his skill is the equivalent of Hollow Knight's quality combined with its luck to find an audience

Also just to be clear: Don't quit your job for your project. At least not unless it's already making you enough money to live off of and you know for a fact it'll keep stay that way

Ответ для St1ka

Yeah, as much as it's fun to look back on these comments aging like milk, people did have a point about platformers being extremely saturated and this being a massive gamble That said, some of these comments are just outright spiteful lmao

Ответ для OnlySmiles

To be fair, what genre other than RTS and Point and Click AREN'T saturated? :P

Ответ для St1ka
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Space combat sims. That little Star Wars one they did a couple years ago was cheap and awesome. All the big ones that are similar are about exploration and trade persistent worlds and all. I just want another wing commander, spare me the legwork.

Ответ для St1ka

tower defense

Ответ для Charbles McBerkely

Not saturated, but absolutely hard to break into, given how attached most fans of the genre are to the Big Two

Ответ для Emily Dioptase (it/she)

what are the big two? i'm not really up to speed. is the bonus td game/map that came with warcraft3 one of them?

Ответ для Charbles McBerkely

I was mainly referring to PvZ and BTD, in current times at least.

Ответ для St1ka
Ответ для Kenithehated( vulgo:" Que saco")

Boy, are you gonna love my next video then

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Give me mech combat RTT. I want a mech commander reboot QQ

Ответ для St1ka

Yea, we need more classic RTS games honestly, base builder style ones too, not just grand scale RTS like Civ.

Ответ для St1ka

Whatever Outer Wilds was.

Ответ для Adeon K. Writer

I will never understand people's love for it (I couldn't grasp the movement system)

Ответ для Sasha

I mean, I think the criticism is legitimate, but that takes like 10 minutes to get used to. Panning one of the best games ever created because of a very minor thing is so weird

Ответ для Paycho

No, it takes significantly more effort. I haven't been able to make it work at all.

Ответ для Sasha

It's really not that complicated. On planets, it's like any other 3d platformer. For anything in between, autopilot works if you can't get a hang of orbits

Ответ для NerdyFiona

I don't think I ever played a 3d platformer. Especially in first person, which severely limits your ability to understand your position in space.

Ответ для Sasha

Your original post sounds more like "I think it's bad, and don't understand why people think it's good", but at this point it sounds like it's actually "I'm not comfortable with a controller and don't have an informed opinion".

Ответ для Adeon K. Writer

it was incredible is what

Ответ для TLAO777

Incredible games are never saturated

Ответ для Mike Murphy-Burton

yeah this is what i was thinking, maybe the market just has alot of meh games, but i can't judge because i haven't tried the other games

Ответ для Adeon K. Writer
Ответ для Zeebuoy (didn't have energy to split accounts sorry)

I've called them "Riddle" games since they're like puzzles but it's less about "Solve this thing you know the rules" and more "Okay explore and figure out what everything means" Other games in that Genre are Myst and Riven. (The new remakes are FPS like Outer Wilds)

Ответ для Das Ganon

I also recommend Lorelei and the Laser Eyes, Blue Prince, and Tunic

Ответ для OnlySmiles

Void stranger as well maybe?

Ответ для afancydragon

The Witness, Animal Well, Rain World

Ответ для Zeebuoy (didn't have energy to split accounts sorry)

I've heard "metroidbrainia" tossed around and kinda like it! I'm also prone to call 'em Mystlikes :3

Ответ для Adeon K. Writer

I love that game so much. It is truly special.

Ответ для Adeon K. Writer

unfortunately i think that is the first and only Outer-wilds-type game. also strand-type games aren't oversaturated yet

Ответ для St1ka
Ответ для Costélinha (Não sei quando vou abrir encomendas de novo kskkks)

I think the criticism is more that in conjunction with quitting your job

Ответ для St1ka

It depends. With the near infinite potential that games as a medium represent we've probably seen less than 1% of all possible genres we could have. We need to bring back getting-real-weird-with-it in general.

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We need more rhythm games.

Ответ для St1ka

So what I hear you saying is that I should quit my very stable job to make a 90s style point and click adventure game? Well, if you say so!

Ответ для Wonderful Starfish

haha

Ответ для Wonderful Starfish

Unironically yes.

Ответ для Jonny D

Time to put talking people out of suicide on the shelf. Here comes an unauthorized Quest for Glory sequel!

Ответ для St1ka

I wanna see point and click again. Where are the HE-style games of today?

Ответ для Woynich🔜Megaplex

What's HE, in this context?

Ответ для nickbell 🆗️

Humongous Entertainment. They were a Washington-Based kids edutainment computer game company that existed from 1992 to 2013. They were responsible for a lot of games I loved in my childhood, and cartoon characters like Spy Fox, Freddi Fish, Pajama Sam and Putt-Putt.

Ответ для Woynich🔜Megaplex

These games were pretty different from the Jump-Start or Reader Rabbit or Math Blaster games of the time. Most of those games were effectively a series of minigames you'd be let loose to play around in from a menu hub until you reach the completion cutscene once you'd done them all X number of times

Ответ для Woynich🔜Megaplex

The HE Games by contrast were full-on interactive cartoons, with frames populated by click points that hid so much animation for a kid to just click around on and discover.

Ответ для Woynich🔜Megaplex

The HE Games themselves were really big on the literacy of point-and-click adventures, having the kid manage an inventory of items that functioned as locks to different keys spread all throughout the game world, and get the player to think about where to apply each key they found to what problem.

Ответ для Woynich🔜Megaplex

Usually with a fun mystery or grander objective guiding the main character to the end of these sprawling escape-rooms. Escape rooms that would also often have multiple solutions, and would even randomize the placement of the keys each playthrough.

Ответ для St1ka

first person party based open world dungeon crawlers ala might and magic but not wizardry

Ответ для Fewer Than Jake 🇵🇸🏴

Yeah, I was gonna mention Legend of Grimrock and then I remembered even the sequel is several years old at this point.

Ответ для St1ka

legend of grimrock is dungeon master style, I'm talkin like huge open world like world of xeen lol

Ответ для Fewer Than Jake 🇵🇸🏴

OH! Yeah, there's really nothing quite like that in the indie space right now

Ответ для St1ka

Vehicle Combat Rail Shooter 4X Those games that were just one long Quick Time Event

Ответ для St1ka

tbh, going through platform brawlers that are using a cast they don't have legal access to (DBZ, Naruto, Bleach, Sonic, etc.) leaves the genre a bit limited and usually when trying to make a list we're still counting on our fingers level of small (not omitting RoA2 since they have their own cast).

Ответ для St1ka

*violent sobbing that only a Command & Conquer fan can muster*

Ответ для OnlySmiles

Yeah but hollow knight isn't a platformer

Ответ для bless my cronch life

I mean it is

Ответ для OnlySmiles

It has platforming elements like many many games but it's not a game about platforming

Ответ для OnlySmiles

"Hollow Knight isn't a platformer" earned that person an immediate block. It didn't bode well for their takes on other things.

Ответ для OnlySmiles

when are gaming/gamedev comments on reddit NOT spiteful lol

Ответ для ./yemáko/badgames.zip

to add on to this, pls stay away from the game dev subreddits. don't ask them for opinions, it's all just spiteful devs who are upset they haven't "made it" yet, aspiring high schoolers asking the same "i want to make an MMO, where do I start" questions, or the worst: shameless self advertising

Ответ для OnlySmiles

It's only gotten MORE saturated since. Like, "Oh goody. ANOTJER Metroidvania with Souls combat and moody aesthetic." I tried so, so so hard to enjoy it on three different platforms, and it is beyond overhyped.

Ответ для Lady Charlie 🇨🇦

If I have to see one more bonfire or equivalent... 😭

Ответ для AlanWithTea || The Indie Ocean

Checkpoints have been in games since the 70s, they're not going away.

Ответ для Pinkie Power

Obviously checkpoints are fine, it's that specific form of checkpoint. Respawning enemies, refilling limited use restoration items, etc.

Ответ для OnlySmiles

That first comment was actually reasonable. They weren't rude, they just said be careful about quitting a job for this, which is sound advice. Hollow Knight ended up doing well, but it could very easily have gone the other way.

Ответ для AlanWithTea || The Indie Ocean

But the other ones just saying it looks bad etc? They can get in the bin

Ответ для OnlySmiles

I wish they realized that about marvel, call of duty copy cats and every damn stereotypical football game, these comments are spiteful, ill hearted their only purpose is to dissuade. Glad to see they rose above that all..only to be the most awaited and hilariously affordable for everyone to enjoy.

an elderly woman is standing in front of a white board and says you need to write it downALT: an elderly woman is standing in front of a white board and says you need to write it downmedia.tenor.com
Ответ для St1ka

Or if you're lucky enough to have savings from your job and can stick to a deadline to either make a game or go back to a regular job, like the FTL devs did.

Ответ для Infinite Perspective

Still risky though >_>

Ответ для St1ka

Ain't it tho T_T

Ответ для St1ka

Well, I had no job and no one was hiring me anyway so... Ha! ... No, for real though, it's good advice. 😭

Ответ для Lewinston (Some Sorta Artist)

To add to this: My projects, monetarily, continue to not do well but have been able to make grocery money DMing D&D games online. Hopefully this pans out as I continue doing it.

Ответ для Lewinston (Some Sorta Artist)

Same here, at least i make money with commissions and i've got more from gamedev in coding than any other job ive had

Ответ для St1ka

It was funded through a kickstarter so they had some funding for it and the kickstarter itself is kind of a market research. They knew there was interest.

Ответ для Denial Barca

Gotta be noted, the kickstarter wasnt an inmediate success, not when compared with other kickstarters. It originally raised like 20.000 euros.

Ответ для Garrac

Not saying they were drowning in success but if I was funded 20k right now for my own project I would feel reassured to work on it for a couple months. They probably didn’t expect the success that came after but didn’t just quit their jobs to pursue a crazy dream.

Ответ для St1ka

We've reached the threshold where there are less available jobs than there are people looking for them. If you've survived not having a job for a while, this may be the time to start a passion project. Might as well

Ответ для St1ka

Oops. 😬

Ответ для St1ka

I started vocational and I have a job, so at one point, I'll need to quit due to internship. That said, I can try building a portofolio since it's relevant.

it's also a good reminder to avoid reddit like the plague when you're trying to get your game known

Ответ для zDS ⭐ Kissed By A Star ⭐ Out Now

It’s not just Reddit. Online discourse as a whole is very much the wanting to dunk on everyone so much that we forgot that it’s other people you are talking to.

Ответ для Socks the Macro Wolf Dad

There is a section of the internet populated by bitter losers who get off on putting down people with actual skills, and Reddit is particularly full of them. There's a reason why it has so many LLM chuds.

Ответ для Silly Rookie

The smaller niche Reddit communities have normal humans in them. But the average place has an abundance of a VERY specific type of odious personality that you'll encounter over and over.

Ответ для Silly Rookie

They are so offputting that they can not socialise in flesh space. They are so prolific on the internet because there are few, if any, consequences for being an unlikeable, miserable shitbag online. The end result of that is they turn internet spaces into shitbag echo chambers.

Ответ для Silly Rookie

Its a huge reason i left tumblr way before the site shat itself, everyone acted like a catty mean girl, tumblr and reddit feel like ground zero for that attitude

Ответ для Eggdrop The Clown 🏳️‍⚧️

May I ask what sites you would recommend for promoing your game :0

Ответ для Eggdrop The Clown 🏳️‍⚧️

I'm screenshotting this thread. you all say absolute facts that I need to remember (also I'm finally not alone with these thoughts yay)...

Ответ для Silly Rookie

imo theres a specific genre of nerd/gamer that used hyper criticism and snark to cover up their inferiority complex, especially back then where negative reviewers like Yahatzee and the like reigned supreme.

Ответ для 🏳️‍🌈Maxy Makes 🦘

I have to admit, I'm glad we're done with the overly negative reviewer stereotype The damage they've done to the retro gaming space cannot be overstated.

Ответ для St1ka

I have no idea if gaming spaces have gotten better, worse or the same (I tapped out during ground zero of gamer gate) but I agree! I'm glad the generation of game people after that had more variety in style and content (and fashion sense)

Ответ для 🏳️‍🌈Maxy Makes 🦘

Yahtzee was always a bit of a miserable prick but he was actually funny, and able to monetise it...for others it manifests in elitism over shit that doesn't matter and eventually punching down at anyone they deem below them in the great pecking order (like furries)

Ответ для zDS ⭐ Kissed By A Star ⭐ Out Now

tbh i've found a lot of cool games from reddit promos

Ответ для zDS ⭐ Kissed By A Star ⭐ Out Now

I would say to avoid general gaming subreddits. The more niche you get, the better the response is. Though, that does depend on the genre of your game. It's the same on other platforms too though. I am part of a gaming laptop channel and enthusiasts can be horrible people.

Ответ для zDS ⭐ Kissed By A Star ⭐ Out Now

I got more wishlists and positive comments there than all the other platforms combined. But also some of the harshest criticisms. It's not for the faint of heart.

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Ответ для Joey Wah

scrolled the replies hoping for this, was not disappointed

Ответ для zDS ⭐ Kissed By A Star ⭐ Out Now

reddit, how dare you show me something I might be interested in!

Ответ для zDS ⭐ Kissed By A Star ⭐ Out Now

or, avoid it in general 🥲

God I want to find the trhead for this. I bet its hillarious

Some people have really bad instincts as to what the future will look like. And then there's these dickheads. How much do you wanna bet they've been talking about AI to all their friends for the past two years? (Friends which they surely must have, right?)

Those people bother me. They were just trying to promote their friend work, and yet those people still felt the need to act rude and cynical about it

Ответ для Xico Blanco

I usually spend more time lurking reddit than actually posting. If it's not people being toxic, it's posts being removed without any explanation.

Ответ для St1ka

Your post had a typo, removed. Your post wasn't in the correct format, removed. Your post exists, removed. You breathed improperly, banned. 😆

Ответ для RoboRob - Mystery of the Sky Temple dev

No joke, the other day I made a post on r/retrogaming asking if the retrogaming scene was now moving from from the 8-bit and 16-bit era to the PS1 and PS2 era in terms of popularity. Post got lots of replies with interesting and nuanced take before it got taken down with no explanation

Ответ для St1ka

Sheesh. And it's painful to consider PS2 retro, but it's 25 years old 🤯🤯🤯

survivorship bias

Ответ для James Stinson

Oh please

Ответ для St1ka

it’s literally what this is

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Kobe Bryant did not survive lol

Ответ для James Stinson

"Don't make indie games because one day you'll die"

Ответ для St1ka

it’s more like “have a realistic understanding of risk”

Ответ для James Stinson

Which I've also stated on the thread.

Ответ для St1ka

well.. good

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is that true ? if so holy plutonia

Reminds me of looking at Redigit sharing Terraria stuff on Reddit very early on! Except the comments weren't like Hollow Knight here I don't think

Ответ для Chea

looking it up i think its because Notch tweeted about it before barely anything was out. probably upped its credibility a ton. the comments were very positive

Also Scott Cawthon made like a dozen games that saw very little success before he made FNAF.

KEEP RRRRRRROLLIN THOSE DICE BOYS N GIRLS YEEHAW

Damn, those are some harsh comments.

I love the juxtaposition of the dream ... the naysayers and the sales The only way to combat the miserable people in the bottom half of the internet is to forge on and ignore them (although that's easier said than done) Thanks for sharing this - it's come at PRECISELY the right time

remember!! Redditors are the worst!!!!!

Yeah. I hope I'll manage to sell too next time.

It's interesting when the same people then fall over each other demanding the next remake of (perfectly playable game). Sometimes they say "oversaturation" but what they mean is "game not specifically made for me"

To be honest, your game will not be Hollow Knight. Not as good, not as popular, or more likely both. Steam is full of games that don't even have enough reviews to put a rating on them, and many of them had a lot of real effort and even budget put into them. Statistically, your game will fail.

Most of the comments in that thread are positive, this montage is a bit... Pessimistic.

Not as relevant but you should also add this one

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Hollywood/audiences at large still think like that 100% - no amount of exceptions like Bryan Cranston as Walter White will convince people that actors are capable of actual range beyond one little character they can do

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People put others in tiny boxes rather than try to understand them as complex personalities. It's bad for society, too, as it makes abuses of power and attacking minorities easier. And it's not harmless, as it goes from art to other layers of society so quickly.

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Saddest shit ever 😔

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Reminds me of people saying that Heath Ledger was going to suck as The Joker, sadly a lot of that was homophobia too, since he was most well known for Brokeback Mountain at the time and there were people saying shit like "can't believe they cast a faggot as Joker". It really goes to show how stupid-

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And hateful audiences and fans can really be. Obviously not as severe of a case, but if you look at old forums, you'll find people saying that Spongebob was gonna suck and it was gonna fail before it actually aired

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They must've had a fuckin meltdown when they found out about Kevin Conroy

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What about Kevin Conroy?

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Because Kevin Conroy was gay, which some dumb assholes probably got mad about, if they even knew at all

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Today I learned.

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the alt text says it's reddit when it's facebook

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Oopsies

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SpongeBob has since ran over 300 episodes, spawning several movies and spinoffs, and dubbed to dozens of languages.

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augh what a delicious post

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Someone never saw the X-Files episode that got him the role in the first place

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All of that is inspiring, but the comments proving that we should ignore the first reflex of internet comment sections to dump on things is the cherry (I know) on top. Amazing snapshot in time.

To have the level of success like something like HK is like catching lighting in a bottle. There are plenty of amazing Indies that are barely noticed No, the bigger takeaway from Team Cherry is that if you aren't having fun, why are you doing it? Silksong took 7 years because they had so much fun.

Absolutely incredible how Reddit has just always been a cesspool. I would LOVE to track down these toxic assholes and *politely* ask them if their opinions on Hollow Knight have changed, but also hope they languish in obscurity forever.

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Maple_qb 🥕🕹️

hey i looked up everyone in this screenshot and they're exactly the kinda people you think they are, except for babygotsap; he's got some weird views but they're not bad, but the rest of them drop slurs on the regular lmao

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This just in: People like good games regardless of their genre.

I hate this stigma of "the market is saturated with this genre so you're just by principle not allowed to make the thing you like". Screw the market in that case!

oh damn

Those comments are awful, why do people have to be such assholes? Completely unwarranted.

even more proof that Redditors are actual troglodytes

Proof, if it were needed, that the users of Reddit know nothing and should forever be ignored.

Nasty comments on reddit... Not surprising on this platform. Congratz to the dev with their second game release.

What's funny is that a lot of these comments have been from now deleted/suspended accounts. Team cherry/ HK will never be forgotten, but these redditors sure were. Props to that one guy who went back and gave his respects to the game's success though.

I feel like this is saying a lot about r/gaming.

They couldn’t even tell what genre the game was

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Oh wow I didn't know you were on bluesky. Your racing game was cool AF

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An infinitely better interaction you've had to being spotted in the wild compared to every time on the bird bapp.

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Bloodborne PSX aswell

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Me neither!

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No way the cool bunny woman who made an epic racing game (which sadly wasn't a Bloodborne Fangame because Sony would rather make 300 Concords instead of letting people make fangames)

Some day I'll finish that game

Why yes, I did just go and buy Hollow Knight just because of that. (Finally got a steamdeck, rather than 20 year old consoles).

That SCREAMS to me how terrible the general gaming populace was 10 years ago Let's see... That would of been... Bo3? Right at the start of the shift in AAA vs Indie thinking by the masses? 🍀

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TBH, I don't think it changed. The genres might have changed or the complaints might be different, but I'm pretty certain the overall behavior remains

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lurking on r/gamedev... just seems like gaming in general. stuff like this just only pops up occasionally when people smack down something that gets popular. for every success story are thousands put down by those they chose to open up to on some social media somewhere.

I'm worried because I also quit my job for my game, and the comments I get on it are mostly positive... so I assume the opposite result will occur!

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Depends on where you post. Reddit and Twitter are known for being full of bots and a lot of jealous people.

Fuck Reddit, lmao.

"one more indie 2D sidescroller because we don't have enough of those 🙄" WOW.

If I'd quit my job to my project full-time, I'd be living in a cardboard box. But still, it seems to look nice! Those reactions are grifters, of which we seem to have way too many these days.

The day I wish to have, to be seen creating something that would make people feel joy. Im nowhere near it at all. A dream it stays for now.

Paid off quite well

Definitely a huge inspiration to continue following my dreams and making them reality ♡ I hope one day people like playing my game too :)

yep i always get a few dumbass comments like this from bitter dudes who didn’t make a game themselves

Those posts are some of the most sour grapes omg, just miserable people

And to remind oneself to never read Reddit

Exhibit number 8 billion on why Reddit should not be taken seriously.

Damnnnnn. This is powerful

This reminds me of those forum posts from 1999 saying SpongeBob is gonna fail.

I've never seen this before. It really puts into perspective of things. My main issue is I'm not an artist, so I can't really make the game I want to, so it's...pretty rough. But this does help inspire me at least a bit

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Don’t give up! Lots of artists would love to work on a project, even if it’s on the side if they really believe in it.

It's literally a 5 star on Steam lmfao Moral: Don't listen to the feedback for a teaser. They don't know just what's in store for them.

I've been thinking about this image quite a lot recently, especially because my current game has similarities to Hollow Knight. Maybe I'll end up the same... just maybe...

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I can't promise that. Please remember that an indie game being majorly sucessful is like winning the lottery. Not saying this to demotivate you, just please, always keep your expectations in check :)

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I don't expect anything big, but just hope to make someone's day better with my games.

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In that case, I can almost garantee it will. I just hope they'll remember to tell you. This coming from someone who often plays and reviews retro games hardly anyone has ever played or even knows they exist.

Those fucking reddit comments. I swear, when 2 games exist within the same genre they're always like "BLAH BALH BALH the genre is oversaturated with shit! Why can't indie game developers create new genres every second!" This is why I hate reddit sometimes. They hate everything and steal options -

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I should quit my job

I try to remember that there are people who can only express themselves in disdain and negativity, and so I don't let it bother me. This is a great example of that.

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For a while I was Facebook friends with someone like that. They never talked about what they liked about their interests, only mocking and putting down people who didn't like it or liked different things. I blocked them eventually because it's just exhausting hearing about it all the time

From being called “beyond forgettable” to having the sequel crashing Steam servers. THAT’S PERSISTENCE!

And as inspiration to never listen to reddit

Redditors are some of the most toxic people ever I swear to god

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Redditors are just so rude

Lmao I love this

The comments were so fucking ass bro god forbid we get another platformer 💀

It's really funny when people have really bad takes on things and give a lot of doubt surrounding them. Then those takes age like milk, while the content they doubt age like wine!

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I feel I should reiterate this a little: Bad takes often may exist because someone misunderstands or has misjudged the content. People could think that 'Van Gogh' wouldn't be in the realm of some of the more famous artists because they thought he was crazy. These takes may often backfire later on!

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Other times, it's just because the people are shitty or prone to trolling others, maybe to just be a dick. In any case, no one can predict what is going to be the next big thing! It could be ANYTHING!

I still don't understand how people didn't fall in love with Hollow Knight at first sight. It's everything I love in a game + charming visuals and a uniquely themed world.

hey i looked up everyone in this screenshot and they're exactly the kinda people you think they are, except for babygotsap; he's got some weird views but they're not bad, but the rest of them drop slurs on the regular lmao

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oof

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Ugh I guess the game playing public comes in all flavors and some of them are quite icky

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I looked it up and I liked the comment that said, "Man, this game is full of bugs. "

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Mr. Dustwetsuit is an atheist, and the hostile type

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doesn't surprise me

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They've learned nothing. Tiring people...

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I thought, for sure, you were exaggerating. You were not.

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Toxic redditors are toxic? Crayzy In all seriousness I would have been more surprised if you said they turned things around and seemed respectful nowadays

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It makes perfect sense that the least awful person in the screenshot is the one who was at least partially considerate. Generously interpreted as "It might be a very good game but temper your expectations regarding audience reception" While the others are just as mean and nasty as possible

man, those comments aged like milk XD

Oof. Those comments did not age well.

The thread got 26k upvotes and most of the popular comments are very positive. This screenshot is super misleading about the overall tone of the comments. www.reddit.com/r/gaming/com...

Last year my best friend quit his full time job to chase his dream and make a fully fledged video game. Today he just released a trailer and it looks beyond amazing.www.reddit.com

if you are a human being, you shouldn't be using reddit for anything.

Why must they be so mean :(

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Because Reddit.

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Bunch if burnt out cynics. Reddit is full of cynics and doomers and problematics.

was it the stupid subreddit?

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r/gaming so I guess yes...

Me writing extreme horror

Mighty fine inspiration, will remember this

how to pin someone else's post to my profile forever

Guarantee you these guys were in the chat for every Nintendo Direct the past 6 years saying “where silksong”

It's always Redditors lmao. These losers are probably never going to have any ability to create and complete anything, so they're stuck criticizing everything-

Remember: Never trust a redditor's opinion

Hahaha, those replies, hmm... let's see... have NOT aged well. As the old saying goes, "Time will tell."

These negative comments are crazy. 💀 Even if platformers are a saturated genre, I think the gameplay and art style should speak for itself. Hollow Knight was a massive gamble and I’m glad it paid off!

Wonder how old Mutilated_Pencil is doing these days, wonder if they are full of crow. Stuffed to the brim, burping up feathers.

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It’d be cooler if it was the crows who are feasting

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I'd agree, but I wouldn't wish diarrhea on the crows.

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Reddit has their last activity from 2 years ago, with posts in the 4chan sub. The daft cunt got more than a tenth less karma than me despite our accounts being the same age. So needless to say, he probably does drown in negativity. (And I thought I was bad, lmao)

Its crazy seeing something that has a nicely polished style like hollow knight and saying its beyond forgettable like the game has such a distinct look to it!!

Incredible

I'm working on a project of my own, and at times, I admittedly do worry that it won't get much attention once it's published. Seeing this definitely puts a smile on my face and gives me hope that I can make a hit novel!

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I'm glad. I think we all have those fears over our projects. It could be a game, a book, youtube, anything

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I want my work to be loved and remembered long after I'm gone. I want to make this my mark on the world, proof that I was here and accomplished something that I wanted to do.

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I can only speak for gaming but I'm the type of person who likes to check out unique things other than the usual big publisher releases I'm sure people like that exist in all mediums so I'm sure people will check it out:D

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Yeah. It'd be nice to be a best seller, but if I can at least get a fan base for my work, then I'll be happy.

My anxiety wouldn’t let me quit my job until the side project was successful

what a bunch of miserable people but of course, it's reddit good thing reality shut them off

Oh, wow. Hollow Knight is the first game I played since the '90s, when I decided to ditch gaming and focus on my business projects. I just bought a PS5 last year and downloaded this game. It was so brilliant and so beautifully done, I spent months playing it. MInd blowing it was made by an indie

Further proof that Reddit is absolutely worthless.

I find this game extremely boring but that are some shitty takes, it always had a propper visual style to stand out

I used it as inspiration to write my book xD Gonna publish it once the art's done.

Those ppl in the replies in that screenshot sure do look silly now… Sending all the love to team cherry and every indie dev you’ve got this!

Reddit moment

jfc gamers (like not all of them but a weirdly large percentage) are so mean and entitled.

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They stole their opinion from "critics" on YouTube.

Survivor bias is a bitch. And being charmed by this bitch is a straight highway to a broken heart. BTW, I understand comments. From trailer is hard to say game is THAT good.

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But. None of us know the future so we all need to not try to be armchair diviners whose negative nonsense are more likely to encourage failure (which I suspect these people secretly want because their terrible miserable fools) than if you simply said "Hey, man, your efforts are admirable good luck!"

Thanks for posting this 🥲

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Glad I could help

I watched video yesterday why cd players shouldn't touch battlefield game. Comments reminded me them. This is video if someone is interested. youtu.be/xNXo8MUy64U?...

Big Streamers Just Don't Get Battlefield.YouTube video by The Kingerdyoutu.be

Reddit

I saw the Hollow Knight content, and then the "10 years ago", and I think I just aged by 20 years... I can't believe it's been that long since the game's development and such

Considering that it's reddit, I'm surprised the post wasn't deleted for promoting the game.

on the other side of the coin, there are people like these: www.reddit.com/r/gaming/com... (the top comment is actual constructive criticism, not hot garbage) like yes, Hollow Knight was an immense success, but Team Cherry did NOT work in enviable environments. it was a huge risk, like Cuphead.

From the gaming community on Reddit: Dear internet, I'm a 26 year old lady who's been developing a science-based, 100% dragon MMO for the last two years. I'm finally making my beta-website now, and us...Explore this post and more from the gaming communitywww.reddit.com

The moral of the story isn’t to quit your job because you might make win the game dev lottery. It’s that making reddit users look dumb will always be funny.

HA ! The sour comments. I never got to play HK, but i finally got it last week. Mind. Blown. Like someone distilled fun.

"never give up" is a great message and reddit's a sour grapes vineyard but the fact remains there is truth to the saturation and for a lot of the people never giving up their stuff is going to end up in it unless they never give up and RISE ABOVE IT, they can only be as good as HK if they work at it

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Yep absolutely

I think the first answer is pretty reasonable, honestly.

Wow. Those commenters were assholes. It's amazing that Hollow Knight's origin was so humble. It's king of the heap now!