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An underreported part of UK Transphobe Lawfare™ is that when they lose, they just... say they won. For all the regrettable sway they do have in courts/govt etc, their real power is in the press. So if they lose, they just pretend they didn't and their press friends print the lie. It's ubiquitous.

Lee Hurley

Women's Rights Network/Sex Matters took Feile to court to have their event reinstated. It was not reinstated. The two statements released after an agreement was reached give two very different impressions of what happened today in Belfast's High Court.

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What a lot of people didn't realize about the 20th century was that "the media controls the narrative" was not always (or even often!) a bad thing. Like yeah sure people should get their own information about whatever, but...they don't, and they won't, and it's important to recognize that!

Ответ для Robot Bastard!

What? Why are you posting in a thread highlighting the immense damage caused by institutional (and personal) bigotry in the media to sing the praises of media control of ‘the narrative’? The thread you’re posting in directly contradicts whatever point you think you’re making.

Ответ для The Mundane Transfeminine

*shrug* the democratization of communication means that sometimes people are going to communicate things that are bad, and users' choice of what to listen to means they're likely as not to listen to bullshit. Gatekeeping Is Good And Should Happen More Often.

Ответ для Robot Bastard!

"User's choice of what to listen to..." might be true in a vacuum, but not in our shared reality where massive conglomerates own the overwhelming majority of all media outlets. Hard to see it as the 'democratization of comms' when all major mass media is owned by profit-driven entities.

There is currently a transphobe issue with the Women’s Institute where the transphobes who have got their way as trans women can’t be members any more are refusing to sign their membership forms because they have to agree to a code of conduct that includes stuff like ‘Don’t be transphobic’

Ответ для Mild Peril

The person in charge of this campaign has put out a long Substack detailing their complaint to the WI, and the WI’s response which basically says ‘LMAO you are incorrect.’ The transphobes are still acting like they have won.

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She Guevara

I physically cannot come up with a better example of how the whole "its not what is real/true that matters, its what most people believe is real/true that steers policy and voting" is manifested. Narrative control with nefarious intent.

Fitting that the Forstater ruling doesn't say what they claim it does, and the FWS ruling doesn't say what they claim it does, and the Cass Report doesn't say what they claim it does, and

The nurse in the NHS Fife case said she was going to appeal at the same time as the papers were reporting that she’d won.

Ответ для marykmac

Allison Bailey is preparing what I believe is her 3rd appeal against a ruling they claimed they won

Ответ для Lee Hurley

To the Supreme Court no less.

Ответ для Lee Hurley

Eventually somebody will agree that not assigning her new work at a time when she'd asked not to assign her new work is a form of discrimination

@goatsarah.org's had a very neat way of encapsulating this problem for the last ten years or so: anti-trans campaigners have won the media "air war". Media coverage is far more influential than winning on the ground on its own.

How can these people feel any kind of honesty in their work, when they are forced to continuously apply vile tactics, so that they appear as valid and distract from the failures and inconsistencies? How? How can you lie to yourself so much?

The enemy must be, at the same time, too strong and also too weak. The victory over them must be framed as inevitable and sensible.

Losing multiple high profile -and v expensive- lawsuits and then *just pretending you won them*, is the kind of dogbrained manouvre that sounds too stupid to work. Luckily for transphobes, the UK press have failed to spot this, or mention that it happens quite a lot. Probably nothing to worry about.

Ответ для The Author, Séamas O'Reilly

I remember being gobsmacked that the NHS case FWS blatantly and clearly lost, with the panel returning a verdict of “well we guess the procedure should’ve been handled better”, being spun as a victory. It was not!

Ответ для The Author, Séamas O'Reilly

See also: The current US administration.

Ответ для The Author, Séamas O'Reilly

Failed to spot implies it's not absolutely them being in cahoots.

Annoyingly effective. Every defeat is a victory which means the momentum is always growing.

Straight from the Trump centre for Terfs who don't lose real good.

So I think this means they turned up, got told they didn't have a case, asked if anything was stopping them booking their own venue, were told no, go ahead, and are calling that a win.

They present themselves as winning everything but also the brave rebel fighters taking on the corrupt and infiltrated establishment who seeks to crush them, and honestly, one fucking lie at a time, please.

there's no better evidence for this than Alison Bailey appealing her "victory" over Stonewall multiple times

Feels very Trumpian, like a tiny Roy Cohn on their shoulders whispering into their ears

Like the US after the Vietnam War.

The best one of these was the NHS Fife tribunal where the spin that they won was so extreme that everyone from LOTO to the BBC had to walk back their celebrations & claims (respectively) of victory when they realised they actually lost on most of the substantive grounds. Hilarious day.

Ответ для Keyne

But the public perception that they won, persists, so in the public perception they did win. A bigot elevated to a women's rights activist and an innocent doctor besmirched and hounded out of the country that trained her