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My brother, if we win the Democratic Party primaries then we ARE the Democratic Party

Jaime Harrison

I say this with no ill will or animosity: if you hate the Democratic Party, then please don’t run for our nomination. Don’t use our resources. Don’t rely on our volunteers. Don’t use our infrastructure. Don’t ask Democrats to invest their time, money, and energy in your campaign.

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I've posted the same exactly thought a few times already. Ridiculous that Harrison as a member of leaderships refers to the Democratic Party as "ours."

Jamie is so out of touch. I used to write him in twitter begging for them to go harder on GOP and Trump and he never addressed it. They have been so ineffective. The Dems created this vacuum. We’ve been very clear on what we want. Healthcare housing education human rights clean water air energy

It’s My Party and I’ll Cry If I Want To.

yesssss exactly this like BYE to whoever that man is

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the former head of the DNC lmao

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lol no i know but it feels good to be like WHO

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“why would a rando say something this floppy” ah yes totally get it now

Leigh, my brother, have you ever heard of a guy who won his Democratic primary and went on to become a US citizen by the name of FETTERMAN?

Clarity is so refreshing. Thank you!

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He thinks he and his cronies own it The hell with the voters

NY establishment better be scared.

We are the Democratic party the way Gandalf the White is Saruman as he should have been.

The name says it all

the entitlement just oozes. "OUR volunteers" made my jaw drop

people have argued tooth and nail that we should abandon the Democratic party instead of simply taking it over and it's always been wrecker shit

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The whole "one or the other" has never made sense to me because participating in one doesn't necessarily preclude one for working towards the other

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Noah Berlatsky

the thing about the left victories here is that these candidates are *not* running against the d party. they aren't running like sanders. they are running by saying they are the ones who are truly committed to D ideas.

There is no criterion whatsoever for who is or isn’t a Democratic Party member, other than who wins elections. The only way you can demonstrate that someone hates the Democratic Party is by showing that they try to make people running as Democrats lose elections. But think about this. It means…🧵

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2. …that the only action function and purpose of the Democratic Party is to remain in existence by winning elections. It’s a perfect illustration of the reality of cultural evolution: it’s a self-organizing system that’s a part of our culture for no other reason than that it’s self-perpetuating. 🧵

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3. Remember, the Democratic Party used to be the party of the enslavers, and the Republican Party used to be the party of racial equality and liberation. That the parties have (rhetorically) switched places on this issue shows how irrelevant they are to anything but their own perpetual existence. 🧵

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4. If you want your particular interest group to actually change society in furtherance of your interests, you must have an organization with membership rules and other bylaws that recognize the tendency for all ideas to be co-opted by humans out for their own power and memes fit only to reproduce.🧵

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5. The Democratic Party is not now such an organization. It’s a fossil of the politics of the Andrew Jackson era. That’s why it couldn’t stop the Republicans from leading us towards fascism, and why going back to the ideas and politics of the Obama era or the New Deal won’t solve our crisis.

You seem to have trouble reading what he actually said.

I was wondering wtf he was whining about.

I thought the boomers were bad, but there is a special place in non-denominational hell for former Clinton strategists…

It's how the Tea Party and later MAGA, took over the Republican party from conservatives that at least had a facade of wanting the country to be better.

Unfortunately I could see the DNC doing the same thing the people running the Nevada Democratic Party did when the SocDems won: empty out the party coffers and resign en masse Obviously the former is a much bigger concern than the latter

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Sorry, I meant DemSocs

i will say this--if we want to change the democrat party, we need like:cia levels of operation within its structure. liberal operation is the well-meaning destruction, ever expecting the projected intents to be valued while the material effects go unchallenged. we need operatives. genuine operatives

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which, thus elicits the logically consequent necessity of clandestine nuclei and splinter cells that can operate within acentral human networks in the sole name of the people--the *all* of the people--which means we need programmers, social scientists, infrastructure manufacturers, rural outposts...

THIS. Which is why people who may not like the more cautious Dems out there, should absolutely vote in the primaries to replace them with better Dems!

Mic drop

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these people don't understand that it's just a vessel and soon we command it

Exactly. Parties change all the time. Trump proved change can rot a party. Mamdani proved it can evolve.

The dumb shit is that most of the people who voted out the incumbents are probably the people who voted in the incumbents. This is a repudiation, not a take over.

They dont want you to use their resources but they dont have problems accepting ressources ($) from israel.

LOL! He’s a former DNC chair….having a complete misunderstanding of the purpose of primaries totally tracks.

Reading this, my brain automatically supplied “Do you hear the people sing?” as a backing track.

Jamie Harrison was a failure as DNC Chair. Ignore him.

Don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.

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You an independent?

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What's the card look like, I didn't get one

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Legit

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Oh fr? Nice pull! Mine has the 3d Mamdani with poop emojis

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Why

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Hence the superdelegates.

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Ответ для Lake 🍁⚜️🌐🌹🕎 🇺🇦🇵🇸 👁 👯

The Democratic Party having undemocratic policies should be fixed. The war will be over when their thumb is not on the scale.

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Ответ для Lake 🍁⚜️🌐🌹🕎 🇺🇦🇵🇸 👁 👯

The fact that they're allowed to vote during signature collection and on the first ballot on virtual roll call?

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> Only the votes of pledged delegates will be included in the count on the first ballot, unless a candidate has the verified support of a number of pledged delegates equal to or greater than a majority of all pledged and automatic delegates. democrats.org/news/dncc-ru...

DNCC Rules Committee Passes Permanent Rules for 2024 Presidential Nomination - DemocratsToday, the Convention Rules Committee, in partnership with the DNC and DNCC, voted to adopt the Permanent Rules of the 2024 Democratic National Convention by a vote of 157-3. You can view those rules ...democrats.org
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Then what's the point of having superdelegates at all? Just get rid of a separate class of delegates.

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for quickly resolving contested conventions to avoid shitshows like 1924. nevertheless, voting in the 1st round was the big issue and that's now not a thing

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Hey, do you support abolishing the Electoral College? Cause if so, Superdelegates do the same fucking thing as the Electoral College: Override the will & vote of the people.

Ответ для ❤️🫀 momo (heartily good bad) 🫀❤️

No, what we hate is when you tank general elections because your primary candidate didn’t win. I want to see more Democratic Socialists win too. But between Clinton like Dem & Trump like Republican I’m not fucking staying home & sulking that Bernie didn’t win. I’m making sure MAGA AH doesn’t win.

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You know that didn’t happen right? Like statistically what you’re saying did not happen. More Clinton voters in 2008 voted for McCain/didn’t vote than sanders voters voted for trump/didn’t vote.

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We routinely have voter turnout of less than 50% of eligible population & when asked why didn’t vote usual BS is “the two candidates were equally bad.” I reject fully ANY Republican is “equally bad,” unless you are literally comparing them to a demon. General elections vote blue no matter who.

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I’ll note that you completely ignored the context of what I said but that’s fine I do understand where you’re coming from. Objectively republicans are worse. I have one question that I believe will be clarifying if you don’t mind answering me..do you think Israel is committing genocide?

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Now who’s ignoring context? Look I didn’t ignore your context, you asserted that because you assumed I was talking about Hillary. I simply looped back to point out my underlying point which thank you for understanding as I think the more do the better. 1/2

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2/3 As for Israel: Yes, that can be asserted. But when people don’t fully assign that blame to Netanyahu and attempt to lay it at the feet of the Democratic Party as a whole, I would point out that Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem which is what really emboldened them. …..

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3/3 So do I think voting for a Democrat who approves weapons sales is better than voting for a Republican. Hell fucking yeah I do. At least Democrats are capable of being embarrassed/ might take some responsibility. Republicans just want to build a resort on the rubble.

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Or to put it your way: Statistically Republicans have approved far more arms sales, started more conflicts, and propped up more destabilizing leaders than Democrats over the past 172 years. I think we ignore that at our own peril.

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I mean I fully agree with the first conflict they initiated, but to be fair, it did kill almost half the adult male population of the entire country. So yeah, they’re not exactly known for diplomacy.

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And yes I recognize that technically the Confederacy fired the first shot, but as an upstart, largely Socialist leaning party at the time, they were a spectacular failure at achieving abolition w/o conflict. So maybe that’s full circle on original point about how we need to approach current time.

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It’s interesting we agree on the state of the world pretty much across the board. I feel like the difference between the two of us(any maybe I’m wrong) is that you are angry at the non voter instead of questioning why they are a non voter. “Genocide support is a red line” “my life sucks fuck em all”

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From my perspective that’s a failure of the Dem Party to reach voters that should be voting for them. There are many many reasons most of all the completely inundating of right with propaganda across the media environment but yeah it’s totally on the party to reach. Shaming/scolding does nothing

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Hopefully you’re just pointing out that you didn’t read what I said, because no, NO MATTER WHO. Just saying that the entire voter base, young AND old, needs a reality check on how math works in many districts that tend to be more purple.

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Ответ для Iron Curtain (Leah Abram) 🏳️‍⚧️ [🇺🇸 out of 🇻🇪🇮🇷🇬🇱!]

It would be interesting to test that theory in say Tallahassee, or Reno. As for an endorsement… I would say again, people in many places getting angry about what the national party figures do or don’t do forget that the rest of nation exists, & that we have near instant methods of communication.

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Jackson, MS had a socialist mayor (who was ousted due to being indicted on bribery charges but that’s neither here nor there): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chokwe_...

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Jackson MS has a population that is 82.0% African American. Again I challenge you to find example in a predominantly poor white community. Those are the people who keep dragging the party down and who Democratic Socialists keep ignoring. Those voters may be AH, but they do exist & they do vote.

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momo - Actually, that's so wrong I had to laugh; remember Obama?

He seems so close to getting it. A little sad

How about he and his rich crumb-bum friends form their own no-progress party if they feel so unwelcome?

Plus WHO WAS IT who has spent the past 40 years telling us don't vote 3rd party, 3rd party candidates can't win and proceeded to cause the party to list steadily to the right?

I refuse to believe the former head of the DNC would be so obtuse as to actually not understand the distinction between the entrenched party elite and rank and file voters like he’s pretending to here

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he doesn’t care his job is to stir up anti left sentiment by tugging to the most cynical threads of the Dem party base

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oh for sure

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Well he sucks at that job just like he has sucked as his previous jobs

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It's not even his job anymore. He stopped leading the DNc in 2025. He's just like this.

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He absolutely hates that NY has electoral fusion because it means that the Democratic Party can’t legally keep smaller parties off the ballot.

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If he's not careful he's gonna experience some electoral fission, if ya know what I mean

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he understands it it was his job to keep them entrenched change means they actually have to do things

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Well said Aubrey. 👏

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Bear in mind he's gotten his ass kicked in every race he's ever been involved in

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I can see why

Be the democratic party instead of the democratic party

The job of DNC chair is famously a thankless one — you exist to coordinate fundraising behind the scenes and be a human punching bag in public — but it’s not even his job anymore! He’s posting like this for love of the game

get in kids, we’re taking over

As a longtime Dem who’s voted for every D candidate he could since 1992, amen. If the majority of the party wants someone as the candidate, then that’s the party. If I can’t live with the candidate, I don’t have to vote for them. I haven’t seen a DSA nominee that’s been a dealbreaker for me.

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I’m in Wisconsin and we don’t have a ton of DSA candidates/electeds, but there are some I have voted for in primaries and so far, none I wouldn’t vote for in a general on the Democratic line

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We did have Sheriff Clarke, who was an actual republican and later MAGA but ran as a Democrat because he cynically, and correctly, believed he would not be elected in Milwaukee on the GOP line. I will apply Harrison’s comment to him and his ilk and that’s it.

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He was the dipshit in the cowboy hat right?

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Yup

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There are six Dems remaining in the primary (all six are running real races too) so we will see. I do related legal work so I am not discussing my personal preferences or predictions but I will happily vote for whichever of the six makes it through.

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I’m relatively sure there’s no admitted DSA member anywhere on any ballot near me. Doug Jones (whom I love) is about as left-wing a candidate as you’re getting here.

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This, by the way, is what frustrated me about people in 2008 and 2016. If the party nominates someone who got the most votes and I can’t stand them, then I won’t vote for them. I won’t claim they cheated without actual evidence of miscounted ballots. I can’t remember if Tulsi was a DSA member

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when she was in elected office. Regardless, hope I wouldn’t have voted for her as a nominee.

I assume the dccc is taking note and will put money into matt dunlap's campaign in maine? Also still waiting on that congratulations from Janet mills for Graham winning.

Sounds like this is addressed to John Fetterman

That is how it works, yes.

Oh that’s totallly not how I read that post. Huh. I read it as another “sick of absolute republicans running as Democrats all of a sudden” post.

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No, he is mad about NY-13 voters electing Darializa Avila Chevalier because she tweeted mean things about Kamala Harris

if the leftoids win the democratic nomination, no more shrimp fundraisers

*grabs popcorn in anticipation of the ratio before clicking over to the original post*

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he's taking a real shellacking

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💯🎯

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Lol

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👌🏻 We all should adopt this mindset and act accordingly. Be the change you want to see in the world.

Actual popularism

Lol, but when you lose, you're gonna cry rigged just like Donald. It's been ten years since the 2016 primaries and they're still butthurt about it. 😆

that's a pretty radical statement, what's the strategy behind it?

Unless you continue to lose general elections. Then you’re just angry little muppets screaming into the wind while the party ceases to exist & Republicans replace American Democracy with a functional monarchy. In generals it’s as important to vote for Democrats you don’t agree with as those you do.

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1) the districts we’re talking about (NY-7, 10, 12) vote 75-85% Democratic. The Dem primary is the whole ballgame here. 2) Are you considering Jaime Harrison, unsuccessful challenger of Lindsey Graham and chair of the DNC from 2021 to 2025, to be a model for winning general elections?

Ответ для Leigh Walton

If the districts vote that way I will wholeheartedly applaud the results. What I’m saying is this. When more than 50% of eligible voters routinely stay home, no matter how liberal a candidate is, then the idea that you “just need a candidate that people are excited for,” doesn’t hold water. 1/2

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2/2 Until & unless we can de-program these people of the idea that ‘their vote doesn’t count,’ & get them the fuck off the couch, registered & to the polls on voting day… …unfortunate reality for MOST districts, is that alienating center of the Dems means handing election directly to Republicans.

so bye !

True. But it also means that you are not a Socialist Party, and this is rather a pity.

Nah - you're the KPD not actual Dems. Fantasies of "burn it down and we'll save it" didn't work so well that it deserves repeating. You don't have ONE single effective legislator. You have performers, bombasts, influencers who take working people's tax $$ and abandon working people.

What a brilliant example of gatekeeping. Wow. Party Machine, or what? Prepare for the leftwing version of teabaggers, neo-libs!

What happened to that big tent, eh? And why now?😆

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There's always room in the big ten for Republicans and Right-leaning "centrists," but never for anyone on the actual Left.

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They put the red carpet for Liz Cheney but can’t make any space for Hasan.

If any group gains a new member, the conversation changes...

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Sure, but don't get too butt hurt when you lose.

looks like it's time to shut the fuck up and vote blue no matter who, @jaimeharrison.bsky.social

That is what they fear. Political influence not beholden to Capital.

I've volunteered for Dem campaigns and I've also generally been to the left of the people I've voted and volunteered for. And now this guy is pissing and moaning because someone like me might get more representation? Quite frankly, he can go fuck himself.

Great. Then celebrate the party. Shouldn’t be hard.

Exactly

Seems like a lot of people high on their own supply here. We have to win, let's not get myopic.

He doesn't seem to appreciate that in a two party system, there are no other courses of action

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Of course there are! Why, you can join a third party which they will then relentlessly attack and blame to a greater extent even than their main rivals.

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Throw that Veruca Salt tantrum demanding your Secret Third Option!

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Could you rephrase that using a reference to something post-9/11?

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If you don’t already have the purity of Gene Wilder’s Willy Wonka inside your heart I’m not sure you can be saved, friend

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Repubs control of all 3 branches of gov't & are actively disassembling democracy while running the nation into bankruptcy. - This is because their electorate doesn't divide their vote out of selfishness - They understand unity = power. Non-repubs still don't/won't

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Worse, NY has electoral fusion, which allows smaller parties to have their candidates latch onto one of the two major parties so they can get ballot access. And he fucking hates it.

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One of the (IIRC) two remaining states allowing it, even though it used to be possible in all states. God forbid, possibilities to reduce the harm of the two party system, can't have that.

Amen!

From the rooftops!

They complain if we don't run as part of their party, remember how they tried to get greens off the ballot? Now, they are whining because the people who listen to the voters, and not the party backers, are winning?