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Just an observation, but with the lower density and cheaper price, wouldn't sodium ion battery storage for industrial use be the place for production to begin?

With regards to manufacturing, China is doing most of it while the US doesn't have a single entity manufacturing yet. I heard Sodium batteries don't need rare earths like lithium & it's baffling why venture cap hasn't flooded money yet instead of saturating tech calling everything AI when it's not.

Extracting lithium from brine deposits isn't environmentally friendly.

I'm wondering what the impact of a sodium-ion battery pack in every home would have for the grid. 🤔 Is it possible this might be a standard install in a new home in a very short time?

I believe they also are cooler & don't catch fire.

This is why we’re leasing our first EV, when in the past we always bought and held our gas cars. The technology improvement curve with EVs is just too steep to be locked in.

But how long do they last?

Very exciting!

Apparently they are much safer than other battery types

Doesn't look to be a direct replacement yet, but will be a useful alternative for some applications.

They have nuclear batteries in China that last 50 years

People used to argue against renewables because of the cost of lithium. My argument was always that cheaper materials would be found because that is always how economics works. And here we are less than 3 years later.

So, after electricity and drinking water became several times more expensive, salt is next 🫢

This is the way…

Needless to say, those who have invested in lithium are going to run interference for this salt technology. Let the games begin.

THAT'S why the arguments against lithium were always anti-environmental BS. Without moving towards renewables and batteries - even with the environmental hazards of lithium - there'd be no market for developing something better. We HAVE to ditch fossil fuels, regardless of short-term risk.

Advances in battery tech are our greatest hope. We have abundant energy to tap into. We need to be able to harvest and store it.

Thank goodness. So many new science breakthroughs never make it to production.

Every answer may not work for every application but every answer is a step forward.

Why not potassium-ion?

Can we stop making batteries that can explode?

If you haven't read up on it, check out the irish CO^2 battery project for systems level stoarge. It is going to be a web of such solutions, not one single tech breakthrough I think.

Please explain how the new, higher-voltage batteries are safer ?..... Lets say, ....ummm.... in an EV crash, for example ?

And larger.

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Oh look, Science and Technology doing their thing! This didn’t happen by praying for it!

Agree sodium looks more promising, we need to be cautious when assessing this option. Extensive testing will determine if metallic sodium is produced as a result of Thermal Runaway (TR) at 400 degrees C or any other catastrophic event. Metallic sodium is explosive if it comes in contact with water.

But lithium sounds way more futuristic

Fantastic news

These will be crushed by the billionaires who aren't currently invested in them.

This is great.

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I hope so. 🙏

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Believe in science

The next fight will the lithium industry lobbyists.

And sodium is a lot easier to come by than lithium.

The future is bright!

So those destructive, exploitative lithium mines might not be a great investment after all?

Because science rocks!!

I feel like a minor genius. Last year I got new batteries for my off-grid power system & decided to stick with the lead-acid type because 1. they're among the most successfully recycled, 2. I don't like the ethics of lithium mining and 3. I figured something better had to be coming. Yay!

Thank you.

Good old science.

When we get beyond rare earth batteries I will embrace this far more. It seemed as if we were replacing one sort of geopolitical risk with another. And rare earth mining is damaging.

Yes. Let’s move past dead dinosaurs and digging gaping holes in the Earth.

I could easily see this becoming thing you see more in Europe than North America. Sodium-Ion is well suited for cold weather, cheaper, BUT not as good on energy density compared to solid state lithium. But that maters less given Europe's infrastructure.

people will find out mercury also huge energy source.

Storage capacity per gram, charge holding time, recharging speed, production capacity and availability

pro: uses salt water/chemicals for cooling needs, not fresh H20 con: needs to be placed in cold regions as temps for some types can get as high as 1000 degrees F

yes but can they regrow my tooth?

While the US is hyping AI, China has taken over the renewable market.

And these won’t be made in America either . . .

Oh look, another industry that claims it will save humanity and the planet's ecosystems from *the destruction and violence of industry*.

Great. Salt will quintuple in price.

Stationary storage for grid resilience.

What an amazingly informative and well-written article. Every question that came to mind was answered - plus many more I never imagined. Well-done, Nature. Well-done.

An astonishing advance if they meet expectations. Sodium is one of the most abundant elements on the planet.