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I watched an Argentinian show on Netflix that advertised using generative AI, but it turned out to be a weird thing to please management. The effects team released a video to prove their work, and all people could find was a five or so second snippet. What I'm saying is just leave artists to art.

I'm just assuming that every large studio has developers using coding assistant or claude code at this point. Could be very difficult to prove they didn't

Doesn't matter, any useage of the looting and polluting bobots warrants the nuclear response.

It's the cowardice that does it for me

So much software has “AI” in it, from coding to emails to graphics/editing tools that aren’t really any different than the algorithmic tools before them they just got “AI” slapped on as a buzzword. Meaningful disclosures would be like “content that used to be made by humans was generated by AI”

It's always "Oh it was placeholders and inspirations, not something you'll actually see." We don't (just) hate AI because it's ugly. We hate it for the pollution and plagirism. I don't care if you used it to make the whole game, or for a newsletter for the staff. It shouldn't be used at all.

That’s what i was wondering too. Does it mean they generated assets? It could also be that they used ai code generation and assistance. Which i would be mostly fine with. Too vague

The other problem is that while Valve wrote a rule against not properly disclosing AI use, they never updated the Reporting tool. So you can't actually report games for vague/no disclosure. It's the same problem with their hate speech rule. No way to report so the rule basically doesn't exist.

Point still stands that the entire gaming community is generally hostile to AI use in any form in any game, they should feel the wrath of their customers for not listening I'm sorry but it's also fucking SEGA, they deserve it after how loud people have been

They also obviously used it to write the fucking disclosure, so all bets are honestly off on this one.

Meanwhile, a game could have loads of Gen AI but, if they never address it, suffer zero consequences. If it's subtle enough, AI detection tools aren't reliable, so it's all word of mouth if it's AI or not.

bsky.app/profile/boys... come find something better to play here!

And yet if Steam didn't require disclosure we might never know, since no one else is requiring it. I'm fully on board with assuming the worst until this shit stops.

Once youre willing to use GenAi at all for any part of development, how am I supposed to trust you didn't use elsewise? It comes off like an addict trying to convince you their use of the vice was inconsequential.

No one means that it is being used to transcribe meetings come on

The more vague the disclosure the more malicious the intent

at least we know it wasn't used in relation to the performers in the game! that sure tells us a lot! (sarcasm, and no matter what i'm not touching a game with ai in it at all)

Ignoring SEGA as a publisher on Steam Get ready to do the same for Capcom And Horii will probably announce they're reanimating his deceased lifelong collaborators for DQXII...

It feels intentional. Gives people room to assume that it’s whatever level of genAI they’re personally comfortable with, I’ve already seen people claiming that this means “they only used AI coding tools” which makes it fine, to them? I think Sega would just say that if it were true.

For all we know they could had wasted 200 bucks on the equivalent of Lorem Ipsum text for how irrational AI implementation has been.... who the fuck knows. It's so annoying.

more like crazy taxidermy

If it's only used for coding, I think genAI, if you run the LLM solely on your own personal dev machine, is actually fine. The game industry should be leading on this, given that essentially every programmer should have a beefy enough GPU to run a useful LLM instead of paying shitty datacenters.

You'd think they wouldn't be vague, considering that "Generative AI" is basically poison at this rate

Yeah, I thought the same. They're always so coy with it. They put their hand in the cookie jar and pretend they didn't take one.

I'll say it once and I'll say it again. Fuck AI.

Companies have 0 reasons to be vague unless they're being vague to save their own skin. Evidently SEGA knows that generative AI is looked down upon, but they went ahead with it anyway. SEGA can't be honest with what they used it for because it's probably a lot worse than what the disclosure says.

it's because they know it's shameful

bet that l bet the speech was AI made too

Vague or not, no use of gen AI is acceptable at any point of game development, so I couldn't care less where it's used.

Nah, dissecting this is meaningless. If they really thought about this, and were using something that got co-oped under""ai"", but is actually far older than generative slop. It is ENTIRELY ON THEM TO CLARIFY. I've seen enough of these, if it touched slop engines, it belongs in the trash bin

Disclosure should require disambiguation of the types of AI used, which companies they sourced from, model iterations, whether it was local or cloud AI, images of art and textures. Which stages of development it was used at, whether they used it for placeholders that were then replaced.

being specific wouldn't hurt, but I also think it doesn't matter. Any amount is too much so it doesn't really matter in what capacity it's used to me, maybe I'm ignorant of some things, but that's how I feel right now.

I remember when they put a AI disclaimer into Taiko no Tatsujin for having vocaloid in it lmao

The crazy part, this is still more transparent than other games on Steam have. Expedition 33 and Neverness to Everness both caught having used genAI at some points in development and admitted to it publicly, yet both of them still lack any disclosure on their steam pages at all.

The biggest issue with AI discourse is that the term is such a gigantic umbrella that covers tools like grammar correction and auto transcription all the way to wholesale script and image creation

Waiting for the "placeholder art" statement from a community manager

100% agree. A disclosure should spell out what was done, not look like a PR statement

does it really matter? they used it, so i don't want anything to do with it. don't care how much they used it or for what.