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Well, that's all my interest in the new Tomb Raider gone

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This is a surprisingly positive spin on "we tried using AI and it sucked so we stopped using it"

Ответ для hardlylurkin

“Artists hate using these tools but management is forcing them use it for ‘productivity’”

Ответ для hardlylurkin

it's not, it's the exact same shit claire obscur did.

Ответ для hardlylurkin

dont give them the benefit of the doubt always assume the worst when it comes to AI and you will be right

Now watch it miraculously sweep The Game Awards like that ai industry plant game that won last year.

Why are people using the most destructive tools for temporary assets. Just use a stupidly simple shape and texture everything with memes.

Ответ для Kush Dab

Or just like, asset flip. Google "wall" and copy whatever Shutterstock garbage you find (watermark and all) into the wall texture, use stock bodies and UI elements, y'know, like Devs did for the prior 30 years of game dev!

@duckaislop.bsky.social

No true loss to the world Beyond generative AI usage, the people at Crystal Dynamics seem like *genuine* assholes with the way their treatment of Core Design

Well, that is just such a darn shame... honestly, how dare they? What an insult. Not just to artists & gamers, but also to the queen of gaming herself.

"We only use ground up orphans during the early development stages. We promise the final product will contain no ground up orphan." ~ Exec facing an angry mob holding "Stop grinding up orphans" signs.

@falme.com.br

Sad. It doesn't even sound like they needed it to make the game

The creative and artistic vision:

Ответ для minerpig

but he was a creative and artistic visionary

yep im done with the tomb raider franchise thanks for letting me know

Sorry guys but "refined" is WAY too vague!

Guarantee AI assets are found within an hour of release despite them claiming they were removed.

Hard pass from me.

Ответ для Sarah Ford 🐍🎨🖥️ Time Zone Era

And Tomb Raider Anniversary what is a remake of Tomb Raider 1, so they had two games they could look at instead of using generative AI.

Slop Raider got entombed.

Yeah I am not fucking touching

Oh my freaking goodness how many times are we gonna have to tap the sign?? "Refined by humans" means NOTHING! Even ignoring the problem of replacing concept artists, the AI came up with the ideas. The humans didn't do anything but trace over it. Driving me up the wall...

In future history books and retrospectives of graphic evolutions of 3D, you'll see this timeline triangle tits->AI without anything inbetween, mark my words

no low-poly blocky boobs uses AI yeag, I hope it flops

concept art is like the first heartbeats of a project and should never be treated as expendable. (nor should any other part of the process.) i collect concept art books. seeing the messy iterations of characters, props and backgrounds is one of my favorite things ever because it's so human to dream!

Considering how they handled 4-6 remasters, this is unfortunately exactly what I was expecting... I wanted to be wrong.

It’s genuinely so annoying and just disappointing.

Added to the "hell nah" list

OH COME TF ON. ARE THEY FUCKING SERIOUS

I am unfortunately not very surprised. I don't know why but I kept getting weird vibes from the footage itself and just the fact that it is being funded by Amazon.

Can these assholes go back to using placeholder textures like normal game devs, I'm sick of this. I'm sick of feeling excited for a game only for everything to be shot down by "We used GenAI".

@tealgamemaster.bsky.social Just incase you weren't aware of the AI used in the new Tomb Raider that was announced. Don't want you to play any game that's used AI slop without the knowledge beforehand.

Thanks for the warning!

What kind of exploration are you doing with fucking AI? Show me, I want to see the exploration. Show me those groundbreaking ideas no human could come up with.

This keeps happening and it needs to stop happening. x.x

Dead game industry theory

Ответ для MondySpartan

can't believe the game industry is problematic medias...

I wasn’t going to buy it. But god damn now I’m not going to buy it harder!!!

I will never support any game that uses an LLM to generate assets. Ever.

Yeah, killed it for me too. I was always a huge fun of Tomb Raider but I'm not playing AI slop

Gonna mute this thread to spare my notifications, but to the few nerds complaining this is performative, I own most of the Tomb Raider games and played most of them when they came out. (I've been meaning to replay them via the remasters). I was planning on getting this one.

Ответ для Enbyeon

it's incredibly disappointing this happened... i'm a lifelong tomb raider fan and i was also super excited. this is a huge kick in the knees

Ответ для Enbyeon

Anyone calling you performative are pro AI bootlickers

Setting up the “it was placeholder art we forgot to replace” lie early, ay. Thanks Clair obscure

BOOOOOOOOOOOO

yeah if people wont put any effort into their projects and use ai slop instead, why should we bother being interested and put effort into playing/reading/watching it ?

There's a difference between Generative and Assistive AI. The latter's been used since the 2010s and a form of it's been standard on most TVs for almost all that time. So the question is... did they actually use *generative* AI?

Ответ для DJ Particle 💜🦑 VCEPHALO

the phrasing here is pretty clearly talking about VisDev, AI-gen paintovers, textures & placeholders based on GPT systems. They wouldn't go into such depth about how they used it, then removed it if they meant stuff like ProcGen or Substance Designer.

Jesus Christ man.

So they used ai and removed it? Didn't E33 do that and yet people still defend it?

Ответ для icyjustice

The difference is E33, if the devs are to be believed, messed around with it back in 2022 before deciding it wasn't for them. Remember: 4 years ago people didn't know how harmful AI was.

Ответ для icyjustice

Different people but yes. It's a lot of sunk cost fallacy on that one since it wasn't obvious before release so people have a hard time accepting their feelings against Ai and for E33

Fucks sake

translation: we determined that concept artists are the group we can most covertly replace with machines, and are playing it off as not a big deal because ideally we wouldn't be telling you this at all

They didn't even bother to write something that doesn't read like every other of these texts.

So essentialy they traced from the ai's work? Dumb No thanks

I mean they’re using it for temporary assets that aren’t in the game which is okay, I guess?? But even then if I was using temporary assets I’d just cobble up something myself that’s obviously temporary instead of using AI to do it for me.

Ответ для Jacrimbo

No, it's not okay. Any usage of genAI poisons the entire thing. They could've hired people to make temporary assets, but instead used the hallucinating lie-producing pollution machines.