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If Muslims or members of the Asian and Black community had set fire to white people’s homes with children running for their lives, do you think we would be discussing legitimate concerns or focussing on who radicalised them and ideological and contributing cultural factors?

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meanwhile Starmer does starmerish things, condemns the violence & says he might do something about online encouragement in a few months. Just like Johsnon & covid, the wrong man for the present times.

Also, the downplaying of what happened across multiple media outlets is shocking. bsky.app/profile/bana...

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Honestly it’s ridiculous that some of the photo captions say “house / business caught fire” - they didn’t catch fire, these were deliberate arson attacks, some of these homes had people inside so that’s potentially endangering life.

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I read a quote from the BBC that said "A Ukrainian teenager escaped from her home when her front door caught fire". Like, WTAF? It was set alight, or someone threw a petrol bomb. Violence caused the fire, it didn't fucking spontaneously combust by itself. Just... awful reporting

Absolutely.

This 💯 The "legitimate concerns" argument is a straw man that is giving far right agitators like Farage and SYL permission to incite race hate and violence. If anything need burning down, it's that.

Riot isn't protest, violence isn't opposition, & racism isn't legitimate concern.

Right. These are white supremacist terrorists, and should be treated accordingly.

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But were they holding cardboard placards against genocide though? This gov't has priorities. Peaceful protest is a no no, dealing with terrorists just requires a stern word or two. Someone needs a head wobble. And they all need replacing, as soon as possible. #votegreen

Yeah but it was just Garage, Ten-Names, and the UDA/UVF/Red Hand Commando having "legitimate concerns" within the confines of a "distinct tradition". @athenakugblenu.bsky.social

If you choose to join rioters because you are ‘concerned’ about an attack on an individual purely because of the ethnicity of the attacker, then you don’t have ‘legitimate concerns’ at all. You are simply a racist thug.

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100%. mSM is largely a propaganda machine for powerful interests now.

Still waiting for the farage riots over this or for musk to condemn the whites

What’s happening in NI is paramilitary thugs attempting to re-establish their authority in local communities. They merely need to find a new target of their hatred to create division and chaos in the community. Sectarianism or racism doesn’t matter as long as they can control their turf

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Yip and get their drug money.

Astounding how there is complete one sided reporting and total hypocrisy in the media that spotlights black and brown crime but ignores white crime. Heartbreaking, but of course the overall plan is a white europe, forced white births through banning abortion, whilst expelling black and brown people!

Exactly

time to ban X from the UK

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Unfortunately, the UK isn't much better than the US when it comes to their capitalist mind control. They're never going to ban X because the person who owns it has too much money. Leaders will hem and haw about foreign interference, but'll never stop it as long as those secret checks keep coming.

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This is why MPs use X. : Individual UK politicians—such as Members of Parliament—do personally receive payouts from X. Through the platform's Creator Revenue Sharing programme, politicians who maintain verified subscriptions can earn a share of ad revenue from viral posts. This should be banned!

I cannot tell you how much that one point winds me up. The "Legitimate concerns" of flag shagging racist wankers . Just as annoyed at sky & the BBC who will desperately seek farage & our tommeh out for comment whenever any incident occurs.

With a few notable exceptions like @neilmackay.bsky.social, so-called journalists give a free pass to white supremacists.

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Thank you

Haven't seen much coverage of these stories. Guess Nick Ferrari was also unaware, given his question today: "Is beheading an alien culture?" [BTW, odd that he's disgusted by beheading but seemingly relaxed about burning people to death.] www.bbc.co.uk/news/article... www.bbc.co.uk/news/article...

Father of jailed neo-Nazi teenager says 'everyone failed her'Alina Burns, 19, was jailed in May for attempting to behead a barber.www.bbc.co.uk

Excellent question.

If you tolerate this. The outcome is predictable.

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Please tell me that’s computer generated :( this is fucked.

Too often, some communities are asked to answer for the actions of individuals, while others are granted the presumption that individuals act only for themselves.

Watching the BBC reporting it last night, I was saying angrily to my husband if Muslims or POC had been breaking in and burning people’s homes, they would not be called ‘protestors’. Citizens of the same background would also be made to ritually denounce them to prove they weren’t terrorists too.

Anyone else think that those people have been setup/planted to spark and encourage the racism against migrants?

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No, I think racism is a deep structural element of UK, Western European, and US society and has been so for hundreds of years There's no secret goings-on about it

obvious answer, it's a rhetorical question. how about this, do you think if white people were storming a weapons plant in solidarity with palestine? would that response from the police be different too?

These people involved in these race riots are terrorists and should be treated as such.

It is disgusting. They should be jailed for life, it is attempted murder.

They would be screaming terrorism.

To be absolutely fair, this sort of thing is traditional in Northern Ireland

There’s indeed a two tier system in place, a system for whose grievances are valid, who we are encouraged to feel grief, rage, empathy for Guess what, it’s not the people of colour, they are mere cannon fodder for whichever grifter and malign actor who wants to amplify a tragedy to their advantage

The whole things is upside down. The supposedly serious media foregrounding the immigration status of the alleged murderer in NI, as if somehow this is pertinent? Massively fucked up.

Do you really think that this makes a positive contribution towards solving the problem? 2 letters starting "N"

The media including Good Morning England oops I mean Good Morning Britain also have plaid a role in this some bigger than others!

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*played! bloody predictive text

BBC Today: Justin Webb *just* stopping short of asking Hilary Benn (NI Sec) if there weren't "legitimate concerns"... Benn barely concealing his impatience with that line... Webb: "but there are worries that people are coming in and getting services for free" Irrelevant!

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You could not have put that any better. Well said. It's not immigrants being targeted, it's anyone non-white. It's racism, & its being fuelled by Reform, Restore, Tories and Labour. If Gov'ts & those in power don't call it out, & take action, they are part of the problem. We will replace them.

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It's Musk

Call it what it is TERRORISM

The police would be out banging heads & kicking in doors.

If old white pensioners did it to demonstrate the lack of insulation on those houses they'd be preparing their cells already for a long stay

I understand what you are trying to tell us, but your post sounds like you don't get international news. Riots are independent of faiths and skin color. Your statement has the right intention while at the same time sounding ignorant.

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We're discussing the recent spate of far right riots by white supremacist groups in the UK (most recently in Belfast and Southampton), and the political and media responses to them. I think you're talking about something different.

“Legitimate concerns”: ‘if I’m gunna be stabbed, I wanna be stabbed by a white person!!’ ‘3rd world savages have no place here!! And I’m gunna burn houses, terrorise locals and riot as a non savage indigenous citizen!!’

Spot on. This rising wave of hate is being surfed & directed by politicians who see it as a gateway to power & money. They don't care about the brain dead lunatic with the match. They don't care about the victims. They care about being on the news. Across the world division is the new tool of power.

if a white person tried to behead a black person would we be up in arms? would be angry that she only got 19 years? no no

If we tolerate this, then your children will be next.

Fuck no. White nationalists would be out in the streets with guns. They're sick and our society gives these violent bigots an endless pass. Deplorables.

What a stupid comparison from a deeply unserious man

we'd probably go bomb Pakistan or something and lock a couple of thousand people up

Alas you forget ... Rioters buy the Scum & Boomers buy the Daily Seig Heil .... the UK's biggest selling "newspapers" 🧻🪠💩. It's all a big wheeze & kerching 💰💰💰 for the billionaire press barons. No riots round their way 🏰🏝️⛴️🤑🤑🤑

At the very least. The discussion will jump to how immigrants are already a danger & all should be kicked out.

Absolutely, equality extends to all, and people performing violent acts based on extremist ideology need to face severe penalties on that basis.

Only a matter of time before it’s suggested they are setting their own houses on fire

The MSM deploys the term reasonable concerns in relation to overt racism. The bbc used it of a group demonstration outside an asylum hotel. One protester had a banner that read kill them all .

Nope!!

Farages cold rage comments have fuelled lynch mob mentality

The platform may have organised them but they didn't need to radicalise in Belfast, this is Loyalist being loyalist. The people of NI have had this for generations, catholics, black, minorities, check the history of Belfast and families being burnt out/chased out of their homes.

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Correct, but the cultural response within the media and politics is still worthy of analysis I think.

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Northern Ireland may have a lower threshold for violence for the reasons you stated, but white nationalists have been making threats on social media in several Western nations. I'm now used to getting violent threats from fellow Canadians over my skin colour.

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Shame on them about time they grew up !!

Or leaving untouched the social media platforms that had posted the incitement to their actions.

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Starmer has assured us that OFCOM will be sending a strongly worded letter.

It's very worrying

People pretend like these evil bastards came from nowhere when "the Greatest Briton", genocidal White supremacist Winston Churchill, shared their views.

The immigration situation today is what it is because of Brexit, the very thing that was supposed to stop the "hordes arriving on our shores". Thick Brits need to realise, that when Farage promises one thing, the opposite is more likely to happen.

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Waves of migration have changed UK for the better. We brown Indians from Africa eventually provided a PM. To reverse generations of successful integration is lunacy. But that's exactly what Brexit set into motion

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Net immigration is half what it was in 2024, small boat arrivals are lower than previous years and removals are up but none of that suit Farage/Lowe narrative. Farage refers to “hordes” Lowe talks of “savages”, the media don’t call it out. The brain dead riot, burning immigrants out of their homes.

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A nation of thickos indeed - as much as it pains me to say it !

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Just remember Polish builders were the enemy during the Brexit hatw fest.

I remember the good old days when burning someone’s house down made you a thug.

your saying you wouldnt. and thats why your not now either. what would it take to get you to focussing on who radicalised them and ideological and contributing cultural factors? :)

No because, sadly, the UK is full of racist morons, and I believe that we are on a slippery slope to fascism.

Where was the outrage and protests when Stephen Ogilvie was viciously attacked by Belfast drug dealers in Scotland? Attempted murder victim Stephen Ogilvie was tortured by drug dealer in Scotland in 2001 | Belfast Telegraph share.google/jgpQcxMTSKiZ...

Attempted murder victim Stephen Ogilvie was tortured by drug dealer in Scotland in 2001The man who was attacked in north Belfast on Monday night was the victim of a drug dealer assault while living in Scotland.share.google

Anyone seen setting fire to houses during these riots should be arrested and jailed for 20 years for attempted murder

There's also the refusal to acknowledge for Northern Ireland that the racist rioters are from the loyalist terrorist group, more extreme and far right British than the British - also given government money for 'projects' collusion by the state hasn't ended

I'm Scottish born and bred. Raised by catholic Mum. I've lived with this bigotry my whole life. They call it unionist. Sadly that word can mask a multitude of excuses for mob violence.

Nope! Westerners always believed that Whites have more rights than others

🎯 we do have ‘two tiers’ in this country but not the one Faridge and Low (no e) would have us believe. They want two tiers but the non whites being the persecuted

Hear, hear 👏👏👏

It’s time the media called out these racist riots for what they are instead of calling them ‘protests’ and pointing out ‘legitimate concerns’. It’s never legitimate to burn people out of their houses, it’s a national disgrace and should be framed as such.

“Protestors” the UK media called them, even as the B reel rolled with fires in the background.

Tell that to your fellow journalists

They are racist, fascist mobs. Need arresting.

To be honest, I suspect Starmer would have re-introduced internment.

Sure it wouldn’t be described as protests by the BBC

Completely. It’s Two Tier Outrage. It’s the core of everything that fuels Farage. Decency will prevail. I’m convinced of it.

Exactly. Memory is clearly not what it was... but can't recall Musk, Farage, or Robinson commenting about this, or having people rioting and forcing people from their homes following the senseless murder of this poor black kid by a Brazilian-Spanish national in 2024. 🤨🤔 www.bbc.co.uk/news/article...

Hainault sword attacker jailed for life for murdering schoolboyDaniel Anjorin had "a generous spirit that touched everyone who knew him" his family said.www.bbc.co.uk

It’s thuggery to set fires and attack homes, but how the hell do you not see the guy attempting to behead a special needs man with a kitchen knife in the middle of the street as radicalized? When British immigrants are saying the U.K. is becoming like the chaos they fled, maybe hear them out.

Spot on, Adil. We have two-tier journalism and two-tier justice, where incitement by wealth and power goes unpunished but protestors against genocide are locked up.

Nope of course not, it’s all the bias MSM platforming racists like the toad on a daily basis his vile dog whistles and lies get through to the public and they believe everything he says.

What’s worse is that we very well know who’s been radicalising white Brits to riot and arson, they’re all over our legacy media and organising in plain sight on social media, yet nothing significant is being done

Hear hear well said

"Legitimate concerns" are "opinions" promoted by right-wing media as well as by fascists like Farage. Why does the labour party not say this loudly and clearly, as well as explaining about the contributions made by people from other countries?

Do you remember when the Welsh were burning homes owned by English people? Y’all looked the other way.

Also, two-tier policing. The cops would have gone in hard with sticks.

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a cynic might suggest that some of the local cops would save their energy for when their shift ended, and they joined in

I'm still waiting for them to be called terrorists........

People who behave like a feral violet mob do not need radicalisation. They were already racist. They only need someone to give them permission, a spur. Two em, MP's and a violent thug backed by Musk is enough, I'd say. It's time for our government to step up, please. MP's to step down. X banned

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Yes, it is time. All serious democracies should #BanX

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Elon does child porn Grok. Silence. Elon does racism and homophobia. Silence. Elon stirs up a lynch mob that burns houses and rampages through the streets. Silence. Almost as if money buys you international impunity. Doctor Evil should be so lucky.

They burned out a Romanian gypsy family too. They hate anyone not ‘British’ because it’s the Loyalists, isn’t it? Not the Catholic population.

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Yes it's only the thugs in the hard line loyalist areas.

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The orchestra is Moscow. Your Brexit has not fully destabilised your country, so they have turned to this.

Absolutely Adil. It's disgusting.

Exactly.

Perhaps the ones inciting violence should instead consider their vulnerability

White people love to demonize whole other cultures because they are still convinced they are the default setting of human. When you've spent your whole life with an unfair advantage, just seeing someone else get a fair chance feels like being cheated. They simply cannot accept a shared world.

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And just for the sake of argument, because I really don't care enough to fight people in the comments, I don't mean all white people. My wife is white. She finds white people disgusting because of history. There are lots of good white folk. But there are a fuck ton on more bad ones. Broad strokes.

Rhetorical question Adil

I remember Asian lads here in Yorkshire getting 14 years for chucking small stones in the general direction of riot police in full armour...

It would be plastered all over the right wing press.

I think we would be using firearms. Civil war would follow. But you raise a significant point. Who did ‘radicalise’ Tommy Robinson or just teach him to be a vandal and fascist? Herr Fartage?

Completely agree! Well said Adil 👏

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No. Neither would the media normalise their “call to anger” or “something will kick off” prediction. It’s disgusting how this rhetoric is drip fed daily in the name of “impartiality”

Why hasn't gutless starmer called out musk and taken action against twitter. Also not banning social media for under 16s when the damage it does is irrefutable. He's an abject failure and a coward. We need a Zohran Mamdani.

And no media would be calling them "protests" It would be labelled immediately as what it is: terrorism These far right thugs are terrorists

This is all deflection. E.g we have more children in care than ever, private equity is making billions, and we have a rising tax base. What do you do? Whip dangerous non-sense rather than deal with the REAL issue. The mental health crises is also an example.

BRITAIN, GET IT SORTED.....

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From one man in a shed to another, you are spot on pal, but the list must include not only Farage but his morally bankrupt mates too. Yaxley-Lennon Lowe Jenrick Braverman Badenoch Tice I could keep going but you get the picture. Great post.

I’m so done with Elon’s evil selfishness

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Agree, he has the wealth and platform to do something immensely good and positive but he’s just another s**t stirrer. He’d not right in the head.

They’ve said there’s going to be a civil war in the UK, and that’s exactly what is being engineered by you know who.

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‘They’ being the right wing agitators Farage, Tommy two names, musk & their man in the Kremlin…

Literally the only connection between the murderer of Henry Nowak and the attacker of Stephen Ogilvy is that both weren't white. Oh....and out of all the recent murders, stabbings, rapes, the only two to instigate rioting and pogrom. Are those two connections connected?

This country’s media really needs to take a serious look at itself?

Exactly this.

I am with you on the double standards being applied. Right wing extremism appears to be acceptable as a form of defiant expression. Aimed at ethnic minorities, it seems to be positively embraced by the political class and right wing media. The law MUST be applied equally

Racist thugs are, very simply, racist thugs. Their idiotic, mindless actions will, before too long, end up with innocent lives being lost.

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Well said Adil. These programs are frightening. We here get on with our neighbours - of all religious beliefs and none and all colours. @lbc.co.uk @skynewsrss.bsky.social @mrjamesob.bsky.social

This says it all.....

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You cannot scream “fire” in a crowded theater. There are limits to free speech. The world is wrestling with those limits as social media attempts to shift the Overton window. Corey Lewandowski once said anything he says on TV is NOT under oath and may be untrue (aka, a lie)

I feel like I'm losing my mind listening to the news at the moment, where is the pushback? Where are the challenges to blatant misinformation?

You are absolutely correct. It is pure racism.

That. And this.

Phil Jones' body double

Call me Mr Suspicious but something tells me if Musk's X had a mass of posts - often endorsed by Musk himself - inciting immigrants to use violence against white Brits, and was platforming prominent Jihadists who call for civil war, Starmer & Co would have acted already. Make of that what you want.

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And the whole "the site is a CSAM generator, oops we got caught, still is, just behind a paywall"

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Precisely.

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Absolute cowardice by Starmer's neo-Liberal Zionists.

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Those so called Loyalist racist bigots couldn't give a fuck about the man who was stabbed as he's a Catholic but it gave them the excuse to attack decent hard working immigrants.And it should be flagged up the DUP leader led the incitement with his HoC speech.And now Starmer is cosying up to him🤢🤮

But supposedly there’s no systemic white privilege 🤔

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The thunderer dissembles it's bile under the watchful eye of the man who created Fox news

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These groups were burning people out of their homes long before immigration was ever a mainstream media consideration. The ignorance of who and what they are is astounding. I can only imagine it is wilful ignorance by British journalists.

Amazed me that there's always a well dressed rent-a-mob on hand to be mobilised. Who's paying this group of young men to travel and fight? Is this what £5m gets?

Absolutely

Quite.

Exactly! We have the racists - those being radicalised, those organising and those funding - and then we have those other racists in the media, police and politics - watching, complicit and normalising!

Am I right in thinking Palestine action became proscribed after they sprayed paint on an aeroplane yet reform musk and Yaxley whatever his name is incite hatred stir up riots frighten a community but nothing happens ?

I’m afraid the lack of action on Farage and Musk is making Starmer look very weak !!

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What do you want him to do? Musk isn't in Britain and it's a polce/cps decision if he's broken the law.

Absolutly !! It’s a damned outrage Nothing but thuggery !

I have been wondering if this is part of Putin/Maga/Farage plan to provoke minority groups into violence, to justify their racism and anti immigration policies, and give them the allabi to impose martial law and police state surveillance.

If any " minority group" mirrored that behaviour the consequences would be unthinkable.😥 It would be used to validate all the RW propaganda they've been flooding the media with to indoctrinate the residents of UK.

Government could block X if it so chooses. Government should stop using this racist, misogynistic site immediately!! Lead by example.

If the stabber had been a Northern Irish man, would other Northern Irish people be implicated at all. It's a rhetorical question. The answer is absolutely no fucking chance.

Totally correct point Adil. Just look at the recent attacks on Jewish communities. All racism, hate & violence, is equally bad & those that inflame it... Vance, Robinson, Farage & co. need to be held to account. What the hell is wrong with people? Blaming innocents helps no one & solves nothing.

Yes.

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No. Every available resource would be utilised to punish & condemn the innocent alongside the guilty. There would be no talk of ‘poverty’ or ‘disadvantage’. Ringleaders would be arrested/jailed. Held to account for their incitement. Different if you’re an entitled white fascist of course. Crickets.

Enough what iffery, these rioters need bringing to book swiftly and those encouraging it and supporting it need to face justice to.