There's only 3 or 4 logical ends. 1. Tolerate the disorder and all the families of any means & orderly singletons will leave. 2. Incarceration. 3. institutionalization. 4. Eliminate the means/tools of disorder for all.
Most of the world has leaned heavier on 3/4 (guns, in particular). Than we do.
If weapons are involved, then you have to imprison people. Even if weapons aren't involved, it's a good idea to imprison people. Obviously, sentences must be proportionate to the crime.
The idea that freedom is enhanced by leaving criminals free to commit crimes is absurd. It is akin to the notion that society would be better off if, instead of a central authority holding a monopoly on the use of force, violence were decentralized among warring warlords.
There's a difference between performative tolerance and: a.) context about how bad things were in the 80s-00s in some cities, and b.) an understanding that our economic and fiscal framework prioritizes low taxes over infrastructure quality, often to the benefit of people that are complaining.
I mean, sure... the Gen X'ers that lived in a cheap shoebox apartment in the 90s in Brooklyn have a thicker skin, but every North American city has been dealing with chronic disinvestment in all sorts of city systems for 80 years.
Privileged suburban kids cosplaying as rough-strewn working class urbanites have never had to deal with the consequences of disorder. The city is like living in the zoo for them.
Lack of self-awareness. When I was a young man I wrote it off because I perceived that I could handle myself well if things ever popped off on the bus. Now that I'm older, now that I have kids riding public transit, I think about it differently.
"real city dwellers fight vandals with their bare hands man. i've rejected the cul-de-sac. i embrace the urban rot. im just like travis bickel. or a ninja turtle."
Whoever they're responding to is apparently on one of my block lists lol.
Anyone vandalizing public transportation for the lulz is a piece of shit, but I also don't trust the cops in my city to respond appropriately. Nor do I trust my local justice system to find a punishment that fits the crime.