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Google's statement that it includes a watermark that can identify them as AI-generated is completely braindead as to how disinformation works. You think people spending literally three seconds to derail a discussion give a shit about that? This is so easy to abuse www.404media.co/google-earth...

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Took me seconds to make an image showing 'protesters' around Google buildings, using Google Earth's new AI generation tool. You can make bomb blasts, protesters, drone strikes, nuclear plants. How on earth did Google think this was a good idea www.404media.co/google-earth...

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"Don't Be Evil" is SO passè

Google is just another arm of this racist misogynistic white mans coup. They have been a dirty platform for years!!

god damn it they changed it before I could put mata nui off the coast of new jersey

Imagine being paid a 200,000 salary to actively make tools that push misinformation.

Ответ для runtcpip

They make a lot more than that

Ответ для runtcpip

Who are you referring to?

Jfc

Why the fuck would maps need AI generation tool??

That was fast. Google sent me a statement saying it is now “rolling back“ this AI feature after our demonstration and others from OSINT researchers www.404media.co/google-earth...

Google Earth’s New AI Lets Anyone Fabricate Completely Bullshit Satellite Images"Tonight I typed just one sentence into Google Earth and put refugees near the Mexican border. Then I planted a nuclear plant in Iran. Then I put a fatal crash on a street in Amsterdam."www.404media.co
Ответ для Joseph Cox

is that two things that have rolled back since 404media reported on it?

Ответ для Aloysius Freeman

It's just 2 this week 😅

Ответ для Ben Stokes

just fucken swell

Ответ для Ben Stokes

What was the other one?

Ответ для Wren, I am

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Joseph Cox

IMPACT: that company that was offering to buy books for AI companies’ training data — and probably destroy them in the process — says it will no longer offer this service following 404 Media’s exposure of it www.404media.co/ai-company-t...

Ответ для Aloysius Freeman

Thanks.

Ответ для Wren, I am

No problem!

Ответ для Aloysius Freeman

Y’all are doing great work. Keep rolling.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

Great work.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

Yall are doing gods work! Thank you thank you!

Ответ для Joseph Cox

In what universe did Google senior engineers and / or key service directors think this WASN'T capable of being misused when released?. Do any of them operate anywhere near our universe? Idiotic to release this (no issues with coding it, just releasing it. Height of stupidity.

Ответ для Derek Brauders

Gemini told them and their pudding-brains that it would be fine.

Ответ для Alex Merz 🇺🇸🇨🇦🇺🇦

They may be smart people, but that didn't mean intelligent in this instance.

Ответ для Derek Brauders

My theory: bsky.app/profile/munt... They attitude is that the risk is not in releasing a harmful AI feature, the risk is in *not* releasing enough AI features.

munteanua

The incentive, if you work at one of these tech companies is to go balls deep on AI. If you add AI features to your product you will get promoted, you will get recognized you will get paid more. On the flip side if you don't do enough AI you get canned so the company can buy more GPUs.

Ответ для Derek Brauders

Remember all the layoffs...?

Ответ для Derek Brauders

Here's the thing: You could always take a screenshot and use any AI tool to modify the image. This isn't a new capability. At all. Why do you think it's the height of stupidity?

Ответ для Derek Brauders

That’s what I’m trying to figure out. I teach middle school and adding explosions to famous landmarks is the very first thing they would do. Immediately followed by reshaping Rocky Mountains into a giant penis.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

Reserved for whoever provides a large enough gratuity?

Ответ для Joseph Cox

Why do tech companies need tech reporters to point out how bad their ideas are? Shouldn’t someone realize it during development?

Ответ для Shanon Taylor

As someone who works in a similar environment: someone did. They probably even got themselves into some trouble fighting against it and got called a trouble maker or had some petty complaint filed in response. It’s essentially gold fever.

Ответ для Christopher Gray

And they were probably told they just didn’t understand the market, target customers or even the technology by a true believer with a more aggressive approach to career advancement

Ответ для Christopher Gray

And I guarantee you no amends were made when they unceremoniously dumped the feature. I think they should get a promotion to "Blatant Blunder Prevention Officer", and more importantly, have a free pass to say "I told you so" to everybody they warned.

Ответ для Shanon Taylor

There’s a direct line between “we have to make sure kids books mostly have boy protagonists because no boy is ever capable of putting himself in the shoes of a girl protagonist” and tech bros absolutely unable to imagine how a malicious actor might use their cool new idea

Ответ для Misandrosaurus Bex

As a QA engineer, one frequent response I’ve gotten from devs in cornering them over a customer issue is, “Why would anyone do that?”

Ответ для Mark David Johansen

Example, customer enters a ZIP+4 into the zip code field –response is that it’s not a valid zip code. No clue that it wants 5 digits. Many solutions exist, from limiting field entry to 5 digits, or collecting the info, and adding another DB field to keep the +4 part. Devs are often bad at QA.

Ответ для Mark David Johansen

So a) being able to see from someone else’s perspective is a muscle of the imagination that has to be used to keep it and 2) the answer is “people are weird and contain multitudes” *If* a user *can* do something, somebody somewhere will

Ответ для Misandrosaurus Bex

And this is absolutely a place where BOTH the blinkered experience of little boys growing up in this culture AND the tech culture that pushes out anyone who can’t sufficiently emulate that very specific cultural background are fucking products over

Ответ для Misandrosaurus Bex

As has often been said, nothing is foolproof, because fools are so ingenious.

Ответ для Misandrosaurus Bex

Yeah, my original career was teaching adolescents w/behavior disorders. Now I teach teachers to do that. I had one call me in tears b/c a kid stood on his desk & mooned her. She was mad I never told her they might do that. 🤷‍♀️ I can’t provide a list of everything they MIGHT do. If it’s possible, yep.

Ответ для Misandrosaurus Bex

i was a developer who was very mindful of things like this and i pretty much got pushed out of software dev due to “code velocity” and “being an Obstruction that slows us down”

Ответ для rooshoes

They didn’t try career pathing you into being an SDET?

Ответ для Shanon Taylor

They probably did and got fired or demoted as a result.

Ответ для Shanon Taylor

Probably because either their quality assurance organization isn’t testing any scenarios that fall outside tightly scripted functional tests, or they are doing testing, filing reports that show these sorts of abuses are possible and management buries those findings and screams SHIP IT!

Ответ для Shanon Taylor

There's no Ethics Department in these companies, which tech needs to pass thru before inflicting it on the world. All they care about is the "can we?", and no-one to ask "should we?" It's as if, after the first nuclear bomb blast, they sold the tech to anyone who could profit by it.

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yup

Ответ для Shanon Taylor

The thing that is hard to understand unless you're living it: the information big corp execs work from is handcrafted by hundreds of people intent on decieving them. They expect and require this, because that gives them cover to do the same for c suite, board, shareholders.

Ответ для Friendly Skeleton

This is also why tiny startups sometimes run laps around big players. They are busy making sure that certain things are never known. That creates execution issues.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

KABLAMMO. Nice work.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

I went to Gemini before I saw this particular thread. Initially it was corporate bullshit, but after I followed up it said Google was rolling back this feature and I even got it to agree renaming the Gulf of America was a bad move.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

how does a company shit the bed THIS BAD and NOT KNOW IT

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Ответ для Juan Luis

Is that a record time?

Ответ для Juan Luis
Ответ для Joseph Cox
Ответ для Joseph Cox

The incentive, if you work at one of these tech companies is to go balls deep on AI. If you add AI features to your product you will get promoted, you will get recognized you will get paid more. On the flip side if you don't do enough AI you get canned so the company can buy more GPUs.

Ответ для munteanua

💯

Ответ для Joseph Cox

The protest work! =)

Ответ для Joseph Cox

Thank you for your work

Ответ для Joseph Cox

Ooooh. "Rolling back" AKA no one remembers.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

If literally anyone had though about this for more than 2 seconds they could have seen how stupid and dangerous this is!!

Ответ для Joseph Cox

I refuse to believe that the people coming up with this stuff are supposed to be smarter than the rest of us.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

Just watching Jurassic Park over and over and over and over and missing the point every time

Ответ для The Kaijuice is Loose

"…but NEXT time, we'll get it right!" -John Hammond

Ответ для Reverend Jesus "H" Christ

A Google project manager, staring intently at the screen: “there has to be something more to it than the dinosaurs!”

Ответ для Joseph Cox
Ответ для Joseph Cox

They reversed that so fast the skid marks are visible from space. (Image not available.)

Ответ для Joseph Cox

You guys kick arse.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

Good work

Ответ для Joseph Cox

Ah shit, missed my moment to generate a shipwreck that looks like a star destroyer.

Ответ для Soyweiser

*instant follow*

Ответ для Joseph Cox

yes, it was fast. at least there's that. should never have been released. it was not a good thing.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

The premise of “Mountainhead” comes to mind. 🤨

Ответ для Joseph Cox

While Im super glad yall got this to happen -- it makes it more unnerving?? Like maybe murderous avarice with an evil plan is still preferable to peter pan psychopathy?

Ответ для Joseph Cox

implying it was to see how far they could get. Test the waters. Pretend to pull back. Roll it out in another way or elsewhere. Literal advertising.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

👏👏👏

Ответ для Joseph Cox

Rolling it back as a subscription feature to sell to their friends who want to do misinformation campaigns...

Ответ для Joseph Cox

of course you can still make these sorts of images with any AI Don't need Google Earth for this

Ответ для midwesterner 🦬

You don’t, but it sure does make it a helluva lot faster and easier to produce when it’s an inline product integration…

Ответ для Joseph Cox

Absolutely wild decision from Google to roll out this feature. Also, ironically, the blog post from van Ess is Claudiform prose.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

these people often have their neurones disconnected, really

Ответ для Joseph Cox

This was so stunningly stupid. I simply cannot fathom the depths to which this was so stunningly stupid. Depths previously unknown. Thank you for what you do. A small win in a sea of corporate fail.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

Here's an image I created of an airplane crash in my neighbourhood. Spot the AI watermark? I can't

Ответ для 🇨🇦Joe Vipond🇨🇦

I don’t see a watermark either! Some of the debris is weird tho, like too many rounded wavy edges and that would be the only thing that would tip me off to question its validity… if I even looked that closely before I reposted it! 😬 But G👀gle’s fixing that in the AI right now as it reads my post… 😮‍💨

Ответ для 🇨🇦Joe Vipond🇨🇦

I believe it is a "digital watermark" that can't be (easily) cropped out etc.

Ответ для Space Communist

so only useful for forensics and not for people that are going to spread bad news via screenshots or broadcast media

Ответ для Joseph Cox

Is there ANYONE at these tech companies who says, “ You know, I think that feature has the potential to cause a lot of problems. I’m not clear why it needs to be made available to the general public.”

Ответ для loves2write

When there is, that person isn’t listened to and/or isn’t in an impactful enough position to make a difference.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

FFS

Ответ для Joseph Cox

🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

Ответ для Joseph Cox

what are the chances they made this for their biggest possible customer and just took it away from everyone else instead of actually shutting it down?

Ответ для romWriteEnable

Idk about it being their largest customer, but I know from being on the inside of a software company, they do shit like this all the time if the money is right. Someone still has access. Probably all of those that would do disgustingly negative things with it. B/c money.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

That would also make it useless for people who were just using it to measure things - lots of engineers would have to go back to ordering their own aerials to ensure the images weren’t tampered with.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

Rolling back a feature so poorly thought-out you were forced to do so w/in 24 hours. No surprise. Google doesn't give an ever-living shit about anything so long as it profits them. So long as they don't get called out, they're happy to barrel forth unimpeded. The "Do no evil" days are long gone.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

This seems a disastrous error for Google to have considered in the first place. Good on you.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

Hmm. Wonder which one gave them the most alarm. 🤔

Ответ для Karen Momorella

1.Iran - more likely to be fact checked but open to abuse at highest level 2.Migrants - swayed to far right, deemed as less users abusing overall to meet an agenda 3.Amsterdam - signals anyone, anywhere for any agenda could abuse reality & create a believable situation- to me this was the scariest

Ответ для Joseph Cox
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Sounds like an incredibly stupid new feature from assholes who only care about money. Which is all google is these days.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

They should have tested it more thoroughly. (This is not even rocket-science level.)

Ответ для Joseph Cox

It looked to me like any video game.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

Thank you. Why tf would anyone think this was a good idea?

Ответ для Joseph Cox

OK, so we're back to having to copy satellite images from anywhere into NanoBanana and then doing exactly the same thing. I feel much safer now.

Ответ для Joseph Cox

Wtf goes on in their heads that thinks any of these generative fake media tools are ever a good thing?

Ответ для Joseph Cox

how many Scaramucci's is this

Ответ для Joseph Cox

it really seems at this point like the tech companies know when they are releasing something terrible, and just rolling the dice over and over gambling that tech reporters won't cover one of them or that coverage won't break through. or like, doing the Steve Bannon firehose thing to exhaust people

Maybe everybody should just stop using Google. 

The simple answer is likely to be that PMs were given goals to increase AI consumption; thus, a Google Earth PM is getting an exceeds on their review this year.

Shut. It.Down. @booker.senate.gov @corybooker.com @andykimnj.bsky.social

google earth is basically cooked now. this is to shutdown all the independent users

A picture is no longer worth a thousand words.

grok said it was fine.

Ответ для rickoughta

it didn't look at some shadows

We really need to rethink our use of Google products. Qwant is a browser option for those who don’t want to support Google.

kill all ai now

truly a golden age of disinformation

#ClipSave 📍

At this point carrying a cell phone pinging towers marks me safer than going anywhere without it god forbid some one abuses the AI tools, right?

You just know Trumpers will immediately be posting fake images of his ‘huuuuge’ rallies

My guess is it's intentional. Google is married to profit & market donimation. trump will let them run amok. This Ai feature gives trump admin exponential fuel to say evidence against them is fake but trump's fake evidence is real.

Oh, I think we know how Google's people thought it was a good idea. They simply didn't think at all

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They don't care. Google today: Be Evil.

It’s easier for them to mindfuck us when no one knows what’s real or fake.

Ответ для Snarky McSnarkerson

Getting voters to give up trying to figure things out and finally give up their power is the goal.

Ответ для huckleberrymike

Exactly. The intent is to take a sledgehammer to what used to be a reliably useful public tool and further poison the information ecosystem. Make it harder to access factual data, push the culture toward indifference or hostility toward truth.

Ответ для A Completely Normal Rabbit 🍉🐇

And Obviously to force people to use their AI to determine if its AI or not.

Ответ для Den lilla såsfabriken

Gotta funnel the pigs toward the slop trough since they keep saying, "Actually, that slop is poison and we don't want to eat it at all" for some silly reason.

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Ответ для Snarky McSnarkerson

that is the point.. when you cant differentiate between whats real or fake its the same as knowing nothing

You can feed the image into a model and have it make a news story. In this case, the prompt was "Write a brief news story describing the protest captured in this image. It occurred earlier today"

Ответ для Phil Feldman, PhD

Well that's encouraging. This will end well.

Ответ для Phil Feldman, PhD

Why not just hand out the shovels at this point? Dark times.

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Ответ для Phil Feldman, PhD
Ответ для Phil Feldman, PhD

Unfortunately, Google is here to stay! Zuckerberg doesn’t give a damn about American children being addicted.😈

Don’t see any watermark.

In their defense, it looks like shit.

I've tried a few ways, and nothing I did could find a Synth ID watermark in that image. Some Gemini queries suggested reasons to suspect it was fake, but none were definitive, and others suggested it looked authentic.

No peace pagodas or playparks?

Easy, they didnt. They let AI make the company disisions now, and when it royally fucks up is when the humans finally step in for damage control.

They're emotionally stunted?

Wait until someone adds what looks like a dead body and cop cars to a satellite photo of Sundar Pichai's house and then releases it the day of their earnings report. They'll care a bit more then.

Ответ для Coastsider

I like the way you think. There are a few other CEO's that would be fun to screw with.