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To be making the argument in 2026 that immigration is a Republican leaning issue so Democrats shouldn’t campaign on it, and especially Trump’s overreach on deportations, is to be completely ignorant of the data and events of the last 18 months

Greg Sargent

This is the problem with the idea that Dems can't go on offense on immigration. It's not okay for Collins to have a clear field on TV to sell herself as a moderate on ICE. CNN has Trump 22 points underwater on this. Two other polls have Ds *tied with the GOP* on it! newrepublic.com/article/2138...

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Take up the torch/a side on every issue so the voters aren't surprised in your platform once in office. We won't suffer mealy mouthed politicians any longer

Everyone hates ICE.

Ответ для bmacknight

CBP, too. Maybe even more so.

But how does the issue fly in *Maine*? A lot of regional variation on it.

One of the many reasons Democratic voters are disgusted and done with Democratic leadership.

There should be a relentless focus on the concentration camps, the cruelty of (for example) sending Central Americans to Africa, traumatizing children, sending deportees to prisons far from home to separate them from family and legal help, the vast profits of the private prisons. 1/2

Ответ для L Smith

Americans, even racist ones, don’t think of themselves as cruel. Also, the economic consequences of deporting significant parts of the workforce should be made clear. 2/2

Dems are not going to win until they clear out a generation or two of strategy and comms consultants. These folks are stuck in a world that no longer exists--they're like the balding 40-YO still wearing his letterman jacket.

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"Too little, too late" While Collins played "concerned" and Trump took naps between ballroom planning she funded ICE that killed Americans and harassed everyone. That's easy to sell because it's the basic truth.

is support/opposition to ICE one of the issues you’ve got enough data to MRP? would be interesting to see ME estimates if so/if not only for Pro SINners

Ответ для Mark Rieke

ME estimates? You mean Maine?

We literally have data specifically on exactly this, what else really is it going to take. What am I doing wrong

Way to Win

These RCT results (via Swayable) get at the big problem. The right wing immigration ads Dems ran both built public support for the ICE nightmare we are living now, AND were politically disastrous, showing clear backfire on candidate choice questions. They made voters want to vote for Trump.

Mikie Sherrill seems to have got the message after her blowout win. Wouldn't say 'immigrant" throughout the campaign. Now publicly resisting ICE.

Putting aside immigration itself, it's hopelessly naive to say don't campaign on X bc it's the opposition's issue. Ignoring it doesn't make it go away; it just concedes that the GOP is "correct" on it. We need to campaign hard on everything that's seen as a GOP issue.

Personally, I think Dems need to laser focus on just a few items that they feel are the most pressing I’m not saying I’ve found the secret sauce, but my top 3 concerns are: 1/. Ripping up the idea that the president must be under the rule of law. 2/. That a republic relies ……

Ответ для Katie Cannon

on the idea of public money for public purpose. Which is why our Constitution established our national currency as our Public Monopoly our government creates in our name Without this, we’ll just be back where we are. You can’t ask: But how do we pay for democracy? You have to understand how

And it turns the immense amount of harm caused by the Trump administration into a talking point, not a human catastrophe. It is unacceptable to only view people’s lives through the lens of a political calculus.

Ответ для Ruth Zakarin

Yglesias special: "hugely influential in top circles his entire project amounts to perpetually linking Dems electoral missteps to particular groups that "savvy" politics love to hate beating heart of hippie-punching industrial complex his political philosophy is very harmful anger is merited"

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And it works: "These RCT results get at problem right wing immigration ads Dems ran both built public support for the ICE nightmare we are living now AND were politically disastrous showing clear backfire on candidate choice questions made voters want to vote for Trump" bsky.app/profile/wayt...

Dems have a bad habit of trying to win the previous election instead of the upcoming one. They also have a bad habit of trying to win midterms as if they are generals, and trying to win as incumbents when they are challengers. Unfortunately all 3 are converging on 2026, yet they may win anyway.

Don't assume ignorance/incompetence. Anyone advising Dems to not attack the GOP on ICE and mass deportations is likely doing so because they support ICE and mass deportations.

Shor and Yglesias have wreaked havoc on the pundit class with their popularist immigration nonsense. Yglesias's heel turn from One Billion Americans is something else.

Here's an idea. The 1787 text & the Framers' original intent shows immigration statutes lack constitutional validity. The People, as the sole sovereigns, never delegated border-closing powers to Congress. The United States had open borders until 1882.

What specific Dems should campaign on varies quite a bit from place to place, but overall campaigning against masked, dystopian sci fi-resembling agents who either kill you in the street without accountability or whisk you off to concentration camps without due process seems like a no-brainer to me.

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Immigration is 2 separate issues dude. Of course it's okay to attack ICE abuses but embracing Biden style border policies is not favorable in most of the country. This is an old issue that's been debated endlessly regardless of what you claim to read into your latest poll.

Ответ для Marvin Justice
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I was in Queens during the Abbott bus saga. It was remarkable how quickly public opinion flipped. Had you asked before, I'm sure people would have said "sure let the migrants in". But once they started overflowing the shelters everybody was all "wtf". In the end Queens shifted harder ...

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Dem “consultants” & the “leadership” guided by them are risking what should be a huge change election by defanging Dems. 🤯

The Democrat party leadership and consultant class has been behaving like they are ignorant of the data and events of the past 18 months.

Amen! To not draw a line and saying this is completely unacceptable, illegal, and just plain wrong is stupidity. This wishy washy nonsense is why people don’t trust Dems to actually follow through on their promises. Not a backbone in the bunch! No guts just puréed weakness instead of strength.

I don't have numbers, but at this point, most Americans likely have some family member, perhaps through marriage, who is an immigrant. Lacking that, then a neighbor, teacher, health care professional who brings the topic of ICE into a sharp relief.

Ответ для Christine Langhoff

Eh, Maine is like the whitest state in the country. I have a feeling a lot of the few independents who have troglodytic opinions on immigrants are from places like that...

I'm not even sure what a moderate is anymore but I'm an ex Republican who wants to dismantle DHS and put stuff where it was before 9/11. We can keep TSA and stick it in DOT.