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Technology has reached a point where I can tell an app "I used to make this thing decades ago that tasted like [description] and I know for certain it had this one ingredient in it" and get back the full recipe I'd long ago forgotten, plus a trio of optional tweaks

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How is this different than 2010 Google?

Ответ для Apache Trout

You don't have to scroll through a long fictional story about a trip to Greece with a now dead mom before getting to the recipe?

Ответ для Vague Pariah

😅Perfect justification for AI. That's unimpeachable.

V

I used to take a bus a private coach line from Northwest Indiana to Chicago airport when I was in college. As I've driven through Chicago land on road trips now some areas looked familiar and i knew this was why, but I didn't know where the different bus stops were. /1

Ответ для vouxcroux
V

Without knowing the name of the bus line, I asked technology and it got me the route and the bus stops. It's small, but still amazing how easy that was.

I know it's silly but having grown up pre-internet (and stockpiling many cookbooks stretching back decades) I just think it's the coolest damn thing

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

I used ChatGPT's guidance making a chili crunch oil last night. While I liked the result, I could have done without the BS pretence that it had actual culinary preferences — "I like to reconstitute the dried mushroom pieces before sautéing them…"

Ответ для Joe Slater

I was at work when Claude told me “personally I would choose [option]” and I was like personally? Personally? You predict the next token. You pass butter.

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

For personal stuff, I'm almost always on Gemini. I've never cared for OAI, and Anthropic insists on sending me an email OTP to log in because they're too cheap to build out SMS support bsky.app/profile/joei...

Joe Slater

I used ChatGPT's guidance making a chili crunch oil last night. While I liked the result, I could have done without the BS pretence that it had actual culinary preferences — "I like to reconstitute the dried mushroom pieces before sautéing them…"

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette
Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

Exactly how my grandmother's index cards are 😂 Though they mostly got inherited by my aunts. The only one I got was for peanut blossoms (my favorite cookie) which I promptly typed up and added to my old law school blog bsky.app/profile/qotm...

General Disarray

Family canon recipes must be documented and handed down on grease stained index cards far older than you are, written in faded and barely decipherable cursive, ideally in pencil. Sorry I don’t make the rules

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

Also most likely they don't have actual measurements but mostly directions like "add butter" or "throw in a handful of..."

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette
Ответ для T. Greg Doucette
Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

This is why I'm glad that I actually don't have a long cooking (esp. baking) tradition I'm inheriting from and my culinary guideposts (first and foremost @altonbrown.bsky.social) use grams.

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette
Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

My success rate with YOLOing recipes has been very bad 😑 Rarely inedible, but also rarely good bsky.app/profile/grit...

Grittybeard

My cooking chops are...not good, but sometimes I read super old historical recipes for fun and try to imagine making them and just come up with ??? It's like 'make a broth, put unspecified amounts of certain ingredients in--or don't to taste, roast thing, the end'

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

Have given very serious thought to enrolling in a culinary program for fun. But the local options seem focused on people wanting to do this professionally, and I want to just not suck at it 🤪

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

Those culinary programs are hard work.

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

Good Eats with @altonbrown.bsky.social should be streaming somewhere

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

I've been experimenting/learning more this past year. I highly recommend the cooking videos from Jacques Pepin and Alton Brown. Both have tons of stuff on YT and have a good mix of recipes per se and various tips/techniques that are generalizable. Both are also just entertaining in their own ways.

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

True story: the reason all those stories get added in is because recipes cannot be copyrighted Someone somewhere told somebody once that adding in a story protects the whole work, and everyone ran with it (even though it's not true) bsky.app/profile/vagu...

Vague Pariah

You don't have to scroll through a long fictional story about a trip to Greece with a now dead mom before getting to the recipe?

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

I always thought it was just to boost time on page and increase ad placement opportunities

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

I just heard a podcast mention that cooking websites require contributors to put a story at the top for SEO purposes. Odd phenomenon

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

It is also to help boost time read on the site, which boosts ad revenue, and bumps up the word count, which was a key metric for google 5-10 years ago. Having less than 250 words on the page was a big no no for SEO.

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

Dwell time required on page to trigger a “view” also part of the annoying equation

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

i have a couple friends that did the cia program. neither planned on doing it professionally. spendy and lots of time but they really enjoyed it.

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

A good place to start is Ruhlman's book Ratio. Cooking "without recipes" is mostly about replacing recipes with ratios.

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette
Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

My cooking chops are...not good, but sometimes I read super old historical recipes for fun and try to imagine making them and just come up with ??? It's like 'make a broth, put unspecified amounts of certain ingredients in--or don't to taste, roast thing, the end'

Ответ для Grittybeard

There's also @diane.dianeduane.com 's Food and Cooking of the Middle Kingdoms, where she creates recipes she refers to (or implies the existence of) in her (very pre-industrial universe) novel series. foodandcooking.middlekingdoms.com

Food and Cooking of the Middle KingdomsA recipe/cookbook project based in Diane Duane's award-winning Middle Kingdoms epic fantasy universefoodandcooking.middlekingdoms.com
Ответ для Grittybeard

(My personal frustration on the subject is when recipes call for ingredient sizes that no longer exist. 6 oz of tuna?)

Ответ для Garrett Fitzgerald

These are very fun! I like them...but also kinda 'aaaaaah, more things I am not confident in actually trying.' I mean, I might be able to do some of those.

Ответ для Grittybeard

Oh, likewise. I like to think that I'm an ok cook, but at some point (I think my apartment kitchens shrunk too much) I pretty much gave up on complicated cooking (if it doesn't fit on an inherited index card, probably not doing it)

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

Both require that someone put the recipe on the internet, no?

Ответ для Apache Trout

I'm not knocking AI, just trying to better understand it, as I don't use it (not needed in my profession).

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

My mother passed away in 2020 from Alzheimers. Years before we knew she had it she hand wrote her marinade recipe for dehydrator beef jerky on a piece of notebook paper for me. That paper is folded in the recipe box complete with soy and Worcestershire sauce stains (from me) but it is precious.

Ответ для Bacon Grease

"dehydrator beef jerky" God loves Ron Popeil (1935 - 2021) Rest in Peace. 😉 ps and he loves your mama.

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

everyone's working to get rid of sms support because it's too pwnable

Ответ для hypoallergenic bobcat alternative

Two factor AUTH is still better than having 0 factor AUTH 😉

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

They should use passkeys like a true sicko

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

I use Gemini the most for personal tasks, but jfc it's gotten lazy lately and tries to lie about it's capabilities. it's going to look like I came out of the gate really hot here, but it's done this exact thing 4 other times this morning so I knew that's how to get it to work.

Ответ для Emergency Poasting Hologram (EPH) ✡️

actively incentivizing me to act like an asshole to get what I want, which isn't great

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

That cannot be why they don’t have SMS support, right? But at the same time support is atrocious and even contacting and getting a sales quote was nuts. Every penny is GPUs isn’t it? 😂

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

Family canon recipes must be documented and handed down on grease stained index cards far older than you are, written in faded and barely decipherable cursive, ideally in pencil. Sorry I don’t make the rules

Ответ для General Disarray

I think it's pretty funny that we all have these greasy, faded index cards stored in an old cookie tin that are 99% of the time just transcribed copies of recipes off the back of a bag of Hershey kisses from the 60s or 70s 😂

Ответ для cleverhandles

My grandmother was efficient, when she found a recipe like that she liked she'd cut it straight off the bag/box and put it in with the index cards 😂

Ответ для T. Greg Doucette

My mother maintained the "family secret" recipe for her potato salad for some 20 years until I finally pried it out of her that it was just the original hellmans recipe that she got from her dad. Many such stories of fooling the church crowd by using box cake but making your own frosting too😂

Ответ для cleverhandles

This was me with a beef tips recipe I got from an ex's parents. Turned out it was just what was originally on the CrockPot boxes back whenever they first came out 🤪

I was recently trying to find the name of a person who gave a lecture I saw in 2003. I remembered the topic of the lecture and the venue, but not the person‘s name. I tried googling first and couldn’t find any record of the lecture. I tried putting the info into Gemini and it found it immediately.

Ответ для ArtsulSelva

I‘m extremely ambivalent about AI but it feels perverse not to try using it in cases like this.

Ответ для ArtsulSelva

AI is also great for finding books you vaguely remember from decades ago using only a few ambiguous clues

Ответ для Andy Flach

Have done with this with several books Haven't looked up any speakers yet, but I'm also very much *not* an aural learner so most presentations I see are soon forgotten 👴🏼

Seriously?

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Yeah it works best on stuff you already know but have forgotten. At least then you can filter out the bits you know are absolutely incorrect. Otherwise, you can get some wildly wrong results that you might not even realize are wrong.