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He is ultimately just very dumb and like a true Lib Dem and theatre guy must put himself at the centre of attention

It’s one of those stories too that is so much funnier when you read the actual writings from Labour people at the time- a complete cult of luddites

There was a lot of writing about how the ‘idiots lantern’ would distract people from socialism and well it wasn’t that wrong!

I need the Andy Burnham meme of him shaking his head.

I regret reading this thread before my coffee.

I think there was a trend of the SS getting the best kit just not the training to use it.

Ha try the book on Nicholas II! I ended up a Bolshevik by the end of it

He did an Instagram video saying all of this!

The thing that made no sense was favourite sons- it just lead to straight out machine and corrupt local politics. Caro’s book on LBJ was really good as it showed how little powers senators had over their state delegations at conventions- was all about governors, mayors and county parties.

Ha no I weirdly agree; it could have been revised and weirdly the 1960 hybrid with some primaries did kind of work- it also helped with geographic variety and coalition building which was and I guess still is very important in the states

Jumping around I know there’s a great book out too about the shah’s party in 197(1?)- the big fancy tent party. The author was on radio 4 recently

Ha oh yes there was a real ‘oh wait we were suppose to campaign in that random farm state’. It’s really fun reading Caro’s account of the 56 and 60 convention as the modern brain really can’t get its head around how nuts the old process was.

The sad reality in my view is that the boat crossings will continue until we reach a proper agreement with the EU.

Baffles me to this day how Carter won the nomination in 1976. He had been Governor for a single term and was very conservative even for the party’s 1970s standards.

He was very lucky that someone as flawed as Ted Kennedy ran against him and that it still required Teddy running a terrible campaign and a rally round the flag moment for Carter to win.

Even worse as he was the last president who could have stopped Reagan and to have taken advantage of the Democrats huge majorities back then- a terrible president and by all accounts not a very nice man.

You said you had never seen Starmer or Shabana talk about it and I am just pointing out that they did they just did it rather poorly and quietly

It was first announced last year.

Safe routes in here www.gov.uk/government/n...

Mahmood: My reforms will save the asylum system for a generationNew safe and legal refugee routes, alongside reforms to human rights and modern slavery laws, to prevent abuse of the asylum system.www.gov.uk

My parents note that this happens a lot on local WhatsApp groups too- people seem unaware that they can in fact not contribute when they have nothing helpful or constructive to add!