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I expect that as Burnham had a white paper in 2010 for a National Social Care Service, that the problem is still the same that LibDems already have a plan and he spent >1yr plotting against Starmer he would have a plan and not simply adopt Starmer’s review. Just riffing hope is not enough.

Why does Burnham not publish a plan for consultation? An update of his 2010 White Paper? LibDems have a plan. Instead he has simply adopted Starmer’s review and left it all to that. Aneurin Bevan he ain’t

Burnham had a white paper in 2010 with concrete proposals. The problem is the same; aging population not enough affordable social care. Burnham plotted against Starmer for a year and knew what was coming if he succeeded Burnham has not updated his White Paper, simply adopted Starmer’s review.

No. He was in charge of the issue in 2010 under Brown and had a plan then with a white paper ready to go. He has had 16 years to refine. Instead he has kicked it down the road. www.theguardian.com/society/2010...

the other question is whether political consensus is a necessary precondition for reform. Its easy to see why @andyburnham.bsky.social wants this - he was burned by the death tax accusations in 2009-10 and May's reform attempt was nixed by the "dementia tax".

No. He was in charge of the issue in 2010 under Brown and had a plan then with a white paper ready to go. He has had 16 years to refine. Instead he has kicked it down the road. www.theguardian.com/society/2010...

The Social Care Review was started by Starmer All Burnham has done is ask for it to be brought forward. LibDems already have a plan and the roadmap. If Burnham was serious he would legislate, allocate funding and establish the Institutions. What is stopping him? There is no Burnham plan

The LibDem plan for a National Social Care Service is a very good structure on which to build the new NSCS There is no need for further reviews but enactment of the legislation, allocation of funding, establishment of the Institutions Start now; NSCS could be ready by 2028 What is the roadblock?

All Burnham has done about the National Social Care Service is talk His initiative is aptly called “The Conversation” He has simply asked for the Starmer review to be brought forward. He has left all decisions to the review. There is no plan, no roadmap. Who will be the Bevan of NSCS - Davies?

Burnham is selling hope and optimism - an expectation of building rapidly on the foundations laid by Starmer The foundations are the necessary, unseen and unglamorous part requiring grit and determination Signs that Burnham will deliver are not good, no new ideas, no road map. Campaigning mode

Good meeting. Lots of work ahead.

Good. Not going to University does not mean that people are worth less A proven way of achieving a given potential University not the only route Some people have the skill to continue learning. Some people develop through other means. Point is - not wasted if it does not lead to high earning

So is Earning I suppose

Learning is a lifetime skill

A university education is not wasted if it does not land you with a good earning job At 21 a graduate will have developed learning skills and assimilate specific knowledge In a working life that could last nearly 50 years that is a good foundation for a full varied life.earning is a lifetime skill

Please publish a detailed proposal. If you don’t now then the National Care Service will get bogged down again in another review. Be the LibDem Bevin

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Burnham has not used any political capital on National Social Care because has not identified a solution. Warm words and another review. He has to talk about a building programme and funding. He has kicked the can down the road and wants political parties to back him w/o a plan.

Taxation is the immediate answer to fund the building programme required, to increase carer pay. You cannot get away from that. But Burnham has ruled that out Without a concrete plan all Burnham offers is warm words and a review again.