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17. How could you write this paragraph and also reach the conclusions that the report reaches? It beggars belief. The entire document is a set of soundbites, some right, many wrong, all designed to appeal to the Vought/Vance/Thiel axis and utterly disconnected to the point of absolute incoherence.

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18. Don't sleep on the national labs giveaway.

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19. Biologists study the theory of photosynthesis but few can convert light energy into chemical energy in the form of simple sugars....The result is a generation of researchers who can model phenomena mathematically but cannot create their own food by standing outside with arms outstretched.

Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

lol, rebuilding an engine is what, a weekend seminar?

Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

Can you believe they let me work on healthcare policy, but they won't let me perform a single surgical operation?

Ответ для Uncivil Servant

Wait, are you director Bhattacharya's alt?

Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

20. I could go on and on but this report is slop for a mind addled by TikTok. Every point is a soundbite: idea, but never plan or solution. The sections or even subsections directly contradict one another. Irrelevant grievances and pet hobbyhorses flicker into view and disappear without explanation.

Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

21. Vannevar Bush is lionized, then cast aside as missing the point. A new vision (or perhaps more accurately, an acid dream of images colliding into one another) is proposed, but at no point do we see anything that the pragmatic understanding let alone the detailed planning that Bush offered.

Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

22. It's transparently clear that the author(s) started with the conclusion—let's demolish universities and replace them with a Peter Thiel model of public investment in inventors and entrepreneurs untainted by formal education and propelled by VC funding—and then tried to find supporting arguments.

Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

23. Scattered throughout are appeals to finding from my field—the science of science / metascience that point to problems with some of the the existing norms and institutions that undergird academic science. Some of these are taken out of context, others are presented reasonably fairly. But...

Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

24. Essentially, the report cites metascientists as observing that there's might be raccoon in the attic, and then concludes that the best course of action is to burn down the entire house. This is inconsistent with virtually all of the scholarship in this area.

Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

25. We can build a new, better house, the report proposes. We'll have VC principles and markets and agentic AI doing microtransactions on the blockchain, it gushes. But the report offers nothing by way of a plan for how any of this would work. It's just an excuse to get out the flamethrower.

Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

26. In summary? A disastrous and incoherent jumble that might sound good, one paragraph at a time, to a president who is not known for deep thought or a politics major accustomed to judging pitch decks, but falls woefully short as serious thought let alone rigorous planning for a national future.

Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

Unroll @unroll.skywriter.blue

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27. A final aspect that probably deserves mention: the Rufo playbook of kneecapping government institutions, then complaining that they are inefficient and using that as rationale to eliminate them. The majority of things this report identifies as broken are things the Trump administration broke.

Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

Willing to bet La Sapienza and La Sorbonne are both looking on with horror and relieved that their institutions are irrevocably state institutions.

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28. To everyone who should know better but is still saying "actually, I agree with this one point in the report" or "to be fair Kratsios is right about this" — I give you Derek Lowe's reponse.

The Assault On Science Funding Continueswww.science.org
Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

It's the same strategy with national parks; defund them until they look like shit and then privatize them. Everything being sold for parts.

Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

“Kneecapping, then complaining about ineffectiveness” as a pretext for dismantlement isn’t only Rufo’s playbook. It’s Russell Vought’s playbook. It’s Grover Norquist’s playbook. They are arsonists. They are like Steve Bannon, a self-styled Leninist. “Some people just want to watch the world burn.”

Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

It's worse than my jumbling, which is staggering to me. This admin not only spouts bullshit, im pretty sure they mainline it. The only advantage I see is this is a great teaching/learning moment.

Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

It's wild how much of this seems to be motivated by the very real belief that if they try hard enough, they can subvert the laws of nature that keep dragging them down, and resent science for telling them otherwise.

Ответ для Dr. Tessa Fisher

It's basically Everyone Is 12 Theory, as applied to the discovery of knowledge in general

Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

@unroll.skywriter.blue

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I retired from APS a few years ago. Private sector has always been more than welcome. In fact, some of the sectors are actually operated by private, profit-making entities.

Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

I'm a retired engineer. In the industry, there was a division of labor. I designed, others built, still others tested. I can't imagine how unproductive I would have been if I had had to divide my time between 3 different sets of tasks, each of which requires a different skill set.

Ответ для rsmoore_8647

I’m a working engineer; this was the one bit that didn’t make me cringe. I expect the way your firm worked, was that good engineering takes feedback and inspiration from built design - much like doctors do grossly anatomy, it’s useful for an engineer to skin knuckles.

Ответ для Call me Ishmabill

The one thing I think we both absolutely will agree on is that the would-be broligarch that wrote this has never been close to a wrench, a skinned knuckle, or a can of GoJo in his life.

Ответ для Call me Ishmabill

*gross anatomy; autocomplete stinks

Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

I have an idea for a product that will revolutionize computing. All I ask is for the government to buy me a $15 billion semiconductor fab so I can turn my dream into reality.

Ответ для Carl T. Bergstrom

Who wants to bother with combustion engines? We understand electromagnetism better than we understand combustion, and we should be improving on those machines and their power sources rather than fetishizing the past.

Someone who doesn't know anything about something has been put in charge of it, and is now commanding people that know everything about that something to shoot themselves in the foot to fix his imagined problems.

JFC. I spent several years on the faculty of the Illinois Institute of Technology during the 1990s. I had several biophysics/biochem/materials-science colleagues who designed, built, and managed three sets of beam-line instrumentation at the ANL APS. 1/n

Ответ для Mark D. Garfinkel, Ph.D.

One of these was for the “Industrial Macromolecular Crystallography Association.” Twelve pharmaceutical companies paid for the beam-line which was protein-oriented, and an IIT biophysics prof managed the scheduling in exchange for 1/13th of the beam-time for his (and IIT collaborator) projects. 2/n

Ответ для Mark D. Garfinkel, Ph.D.

Unless things have changed for the worse over the past 25 years (which I doubt, but cannot say for sure), my estimation of Kratsios’s comment about APS is simply a huge load of bullsh*t. 3/3