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Starfire’s Deranged Neocon Foreign Policy Podcast

I suppose my take on the Canada situation is that the USA doing a funny would be very stupid of it, American conservative elites are engaged in an outbidding process, and the combination of individual incentives and it being so stupid everyone figures someone else will stop it is a concerning mix.

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Starfire’s Deranged Neocon Foreign Policy Podcast

tl;dr: Canadians who think there's a master plan being hatched at the Legion of Doom and this isn't nonsensical flailing are wrong and Americans who think this is reassuring are wrong because it's like saying "Don't worry about the taxi driver, he's just drunk" to someone you're sharing a cab with.

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davenewb

I think a lot of our thinking wrt the US gov't is still constrained by what was. An impotent Congress and a Supreme Court cheerleading a wannabe tyrant hasn't yet opened out eyes to what might happen in the future.

economymedicine

Conservatives are playing chicken with each other to show loyalty and it just happens to be about Canada this time but at some point the cars will crash if they keep playing.

Logan

There is the separatist stuff, though? It's not really necessary to have a master plan... I mean, no one can accuse Trump of having a master plan. Feels a little straw-ish

Starfire’s Deranged Neocon Foreign Policy Podcast

"Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, it still stinks when it takes a massive shit on you." -Pierre Trudeau, probably.

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Mike Wasson

So far away from god, so close to the United States

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Pete Manzo

Yes. Isn’t that a famous quote about Mexico?

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Mike Wasson

Yeah, Díaz I think (who certainly was a source of problems on his own)

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Alan Pennie

Old Porfirio had a nice turn of phrase.

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Jay Dubs

The Canadian quote of our time

Alan Pennie

Nicely put.

Birb_at_Arms

"Don't worry, if you get invaded it will be an absolute shitshow planned by idiot criminals looking to steal everything that isn't nailed down, and possibly supported by the full might of the US air force."

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POGtastic

Canada will eventually regain its sovereignty after five years of atrocity and reprisal! It'll eventually end up in the L column of the US Adventurism table, and that's what counts!

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Some Guy Called Nick 🇨🇦

We don't need to regain something we never lost.

Dan Seitz

The Canadians got very mad at me when I said electing Mark Carney and talking like Americans after 9/11 were bad signs and they were headed down a bad path and it was bait for the dumbest motherfuckers on this site.

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Dan Seitz

Like, yes, be mad at Chump, just don't embrace the same hypernationalism that wound up helping his candidacy, especially when your whole country isn't exactly batting one thousand on the same topics that got Americans here.

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Matthew Blanchette

...Dan, what the fuck are you even talking about, my guy

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Dan Seitz

I see you got into my old posts and I hope that clears it up a bit!

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Birb_at_Arms

Gee I wonder why

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Some Guy Called Nick 🇨🇦

Probably because that opinion suggests ignorance at best, but more likely profound brain damage. Also, no Canadian cares what people in a country that elected a demented pedophile think about *anything*.

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Dan Seitz

Because nobody in any country practices self awareness.

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Birb_at_Arms

I think you should ask yourself why you see Mark Carney as some sort of political radical comparable to Bush the younger.

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Matt Kavanagh

It would be more accurate to say Canadians preemptively unelected Pierre Poilievre than elected Carney. He was the least shit option. His “elbows up” stuff was the bare minimum, hardly the stuff of hypernationalism.

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Dan Seitz

I'm aware of the justifications but A) as an American I've heard them before and B) Carney is doing a bang up job of ensuring a Poilievre (who I can never spell right for some reason) takes power after him.

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Steve Burtch

About that last part. No... He really isn't. This tracker is from polls by the Angus Ried institute. Which leans conservative. PP isn't going to get elected. He couldn't even win his own riding. Canadians dislike the man.

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Steve Burtch

And current voting intention polling puts the Liberals at 44%, CPC at 35%, NDP at 10%, Bloc at 6%. The CPC isn't going to win any elections in the near term.

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GooseTheGander

Pierre Poilievre is the most nakedly fake politician that I remember seeing. You don't even need a strong platform to run the party; you just need to be charismatic. Pierre doesn't have it at all.

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davenewb

And how does a Red Tory PM lose to a discredited Trump-inspired populist? While Carney is being criticized from the left, he's got a majority and a locked up Senate. Does he know we don't have mid-terms?

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Matt Kavanagh

The Cons are washed with PP in charge and Carney’s rhetoric is about as abrasive as a baby wipe. Even still, Americans will writhe around and cry like a FIFA ref is watching because Canadians accurately describe their own concerns.

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davenewb

💯 Hoekstra is the living embodiment of a cause-and-effect denier. 😏

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Matt Kavanagh

That man is itching to be PNG’d.

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jklinders

The best part is that PP's base loves him and he will remain leader despite how unelectable he is to anyone not a hardcore Maple MAGA

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andy s 🇨🇦

* can't be bothered to check if they can spell a name properly * has an opinion on it anyway yank confirmed.

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Goroloe

Who should have been elected instead of Mark Carney

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Ari Dublion

A banana

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Dan Seitz

This is Bluesky man you know from context I'm gonna say Singh.

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Grizwald

That was so impossible as an option that suggesting it just reveals you to be a profoundly unserious person. Singh had utterly lost the support *of hardcore NDP voters* pre-election. The idea that he was going to be the first NDP leader in Canadian history to form goverment is brain dead.

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west end girl (in a dead end world) ♪♫

There were enough ridings where a vote for NDP would have given us a more principled and better positioned official opposition than Cons, and prevented the Liberal majority that Carney is now abusing carte blanche. So, still Carney, but not as harmful and lacking all accountability as he is now.

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Dan Seitz

Just throwing this thread on mute but a reminder that I am just an internet rando and if I annoy you I sincerely do encourage you to block me.

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Dan Seitz

I don't have a right to your attention, and you're probably not going to come at me with an argument I haven't heard before, so it really is better for us both.

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Bismarck 🇨🇦🌹

Go fuck yourself

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I wish ill on ___

More of this fucking nonsense. Shut the fuck up.