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Alon (they/them)

Sure, the standards of the era of the 1850s-60s had abolitionism. Even the 1770s-80s had much of that. A bit earlier, there were Early Modern Europeans who fought, unsuccessfully, against the genocide of the Native Americans. But there wasn't really that kind of abolitionism in Classical Antiquity.

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Chris Dazzleox 🇵🇸

Not as a mass movement beyond isolated slave revolts, but people may have felt that way that we don't know about. Gregory of Nyssa was a slavery abolitionist around 375 AD or sometime around then. How many earlier views could have been lost due to papyrus decay, iron ink, or lack of writing skills?

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Alon (they/them)

Oh, in Late Antiquity there was religious abolitionism, absolutely. But this was centuries after the peak of Classical Antiquity, and was motivated by a religion that didn't exist when Cicero wrote and that was a novelty to Pliny the Younger.

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Chris Dazzleox 🇵🇸

That's true but the Cappadocians studied the Stocis and Platonics, so I just wonder if similar views were lost...like Dio Chrysostom though he was also I think contemporary with Christ

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Alon (they/them)

Yeah, but Plato himself was a Laconophile, in an Athens in which the reception of Sparta was that it had an atypically brutal treatment of slaves. Whether the reception is true is up to historical debate, but Athenian elites believed it, and Plato put Spartan timocracy above Athenian democracy.

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Chris Dazzleox 🇵🇸

I didnt mean Plato was anti slavery by any means. I just meant we know the early Christians read him and thus possibly other Greek philosophers who's views may have differed. Either who were lost to time or who those like Eurpides "hid" sentiments in the characters of their plays (Hecuba)

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Chris Dazzleox 🇵🇸

"Ah me! What an evil thing slavery always is! Slaves suffer injustice when violence overcomes them."