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I often hear that it would be "too expensive" to add bicyclist detection to new vehicles in the US - where new vehicles already average ~$50k But here's a $8,350 kei car in Japan that pulls it off because New Car Assessment has made it effectively standard www.automotiveworld.com/topics/softw...

Daihatsu Smart Assist adds cyclist detection to kei cars | Automotive WorldDaihatsu Smart Assist now covers turning scenarios, on a car that costs less than a mid-range family hatchbackwww.automotiveworld.com
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In America, we have to feed the new-yacht habit of the CEOs, so we can't have safe things.

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I’d totally mob with the homies in that dope-ass ride!

And they're so cute and wee! I intend to try being car free when my 20yr old car decides it's done (which I may be hastening by not driving it much). But if I did buy another vehicle, I'd want it to be something like this.

Yet facial recognition is being forced into new cars and making them more expensive. Add bike detection and ditch big brother AI instead.

its the same detection as for pedestrians it's just tuned to detect basically pedestrians moving as fast as a car. So yeah It costs nothing and is only avoided because they are paid to by lobby groups

It should be mandatory in ALL new and recalled vehicles. It should be mandatory on vehicles with a blind spot larger than a newborn child.

My 2023 Car in Canada has this.

Ответ для Sabocat

My 2023 Subaru Crosstrek has a 'blind zone warning' system that detects and warns of bicyclists in the car's blind zone, but that's all it does. I still have to pay attention and look for traffic, including bicyclists and pedestrians. Shocking, I know, but at least I am able to turn my head.

Ответ для SuperMarina

From what I see in traffic, most people aren't able to do that. They also aren't able to look ahead, or in their mirrors. Why do we let people with that bad vision drive?

Ответ для SuperMarina

I've had numerous people make eye contact with me as they pass me, only to right turn in front of me...

Ответ для SuperMarina

I'm fully convinced most people's necks do not work.

Ответ для Sabocat

Or at least they seem rather stiff! On the other hand, I have a friend who barely has a neck, and he manages to turn his head to look.

Ответ для SuperMarina

Research from @iihs-hldi.bsky.social found Subaru's system was "one of the earliest crash avoidance systems capable of preventing bicycle crashes" and "reduced such parallel crashes by 29 percent but had only a minor impact on crashes with bicyclists overall" www.iihs.org/news/detail/...

Subaru’s bicyclist detection shows positive resultsEarly versions of Subaru’s EyeSight system prevented nearly 30 percent of crashes with bicycles traveling parallel to the roadway but had little effect on crossing crashes — the most common variety.www.iihs.org

The self driving cars already have this, or at least a beta version, so it’s just a software update and eventually all will be forced to implement. Like a front version of the backup collision detection. Or the front facing collision detection. Or lane detection.

Ответ для Captain Fantastic

Automatic emergency braking is very common on new vehicles now - making it work for bicyclists is basically about software optimization (worst case scenario for cost is it requires better sensors) Earlier this year, pedestrian-AEB was just added to the US NCAP www.nhtsa.gov/press-releas...

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Ответ для Ken McLeod

If US manufacturers want to sell vehicles in Europe - then they need bicyclist detection (it's required there as of 2024) If US manufacturers want to sell vehicles in Japan, Australia, China, or Korea - then they need bicyclist detection (it's included in their new vehicle tests)

Ответ для Ken McLeod

The US failure to test bicyclist detection in new vehicles just helps US manufacturers fall behind global competitors and makes people bicycling in the US less safe than they could be It's not pro-innovation, it lets companies off the hook for not innovating and pushing themselves on safety tech

Ответ для Ken McLeod

For some reason the US auto industry has decided to fall behind global competition in everything besides creating #DangerousByDesign vehicles and #AgressiveDriving marketing campaigns, while putting many people in debt due to lack of affordable vehicles.

Guess what else Japan has, children with independent movement who can walk and bike to school. Of course, you can also watch 'Old Enough' to get the idea as well. "For decades in Japan, roughly 98% of children have walked or cycled to and from school." www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion...

How can we rethink our cities so children can get around safely?Rebecca Clements from the School of Architecture, Design and Planning explores the contrasts between Japan and Australia when it comes to letting children travel safely around their neighbourhoods on ...www.sydney.edu.au

It’s America’s corporate greed. I am so sick of it.

but then how would we run over those dumb kids that do wheelies to frighten people?

In b4 - no wait, in after Some Moron in the comments whines about bikes needing better visibility instead of *checks notes* cars also being able to see them, like every civilized country

Ответ для Guhdong 🔞

The American Way is trolls loudly insisting that they just need the freedom to run over children in the street uwu

The US is still talking about their V8 'hemi' and making huge child killer diesel trucks.

Just stepping onto the crosswalk "Green", signal jumped back when some stupid bastard made a quick right at the corner Can we have an Asshole Detection System?

It’s a useless technology outside of the cities

Ответ для Bill Mauldin

Most bicyclist deaths are in urban areas, but a lot of people bike in rural areas (including groups like the Amish) I've personally biked on many rural backroads Data compiled by @iihs-hldi.bsky.social shows 14-32% of bicyclist deaths are in rural areas since 2023: www.iihs.org/research-are...

Fatality Facts 2024: BicyclistsA summary of fatality statistics about bicyclists compiled by IIHS from 2024 Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) data.www.iihs.org

We can’t have that but we can mandate all production cars monitor their drivers and constantly second guess them. Electric cars can be bricked much like other electronic devices. All this control and surveillance tech but less and less public safety. 🤔

It is always so interesting to hear how in some other country, how a new rule or law was implemented. Then, why doesn't the USA have it!!!!! The politics in every country is different, as is the culture. It's not hard to understand at all. 🙄😑🫤

especially the Stripes G model design looks a bit like a Mini that was squeezed to be shorter and went up in height 😅 adding something for security would never be too expensive if humans would focus on not harming each other before any other "cool features"

I'd consider buying one of these in 25 years... Stupid US transportation systems and regulations keep pushing the Overton towards tanks and racecars that cost up to ten times this.

As long as bicycles can add a stop-sign detector

The Magnus White and Safe Streets for Everyone Act would require the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to adopt a performance standard for bicyclist detection (and other vulnerable road users) and make those systems standard equipment on new vehicles www.congress.gov/bill/119th-c...

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In the US, we've dragged our feet on adding really any assessment of pedestrian or bicyclist detection to our New Car Assessment Program It's on a roadmap for 2027 implementation, but we're missing all of the other deadlines right now www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.... Europe's had it since 2018

I wish we could import these here (new, not 25 years old). Kei pickup trucks - that’s all many pickup owners really need, end of the day. Not an F-30,000-fifty.

Ответ для 𝙹𝚅 𝙳𝚊𝚗𝚌𝚎

Not to miss the point - agree on bike detection

I want the Stripes model!!!

In Toronto that would be a detriment to most drivers as they hit bikes as a motor sport

While I like this idea, having nearly been hit by a car years ago in the US, I’m really only comfortable riding a bike on dirt roads and bike paths in the US. And I ride everywhere in Holland, where the lanes are entirely separated, motorists are respectful, and dedicated bike paths are commonplace.

Ответ для Angie Stone 🌳 ANTIFA 🌳 Tax the Rich!

autofreie Zonen und sichere Radwege sind dennoch meine Favoriten :)

I don’t know where you’ve heard that but I know for a fact that BMW navigation systems have done this for a couple years now. Even the POS tesla’s have it. 🤷‍♂️

This tech is evolving so fast that I suspect you could put a kit on a non self driving car warning you when you are about to screw up.

Maybe the bikes can have registration plate, maybe RFID? Maybe a warning sound, maybe lights. Nah. Bike safety is someone else's responsibility.

Ответ для crinolynne

How would a registration plate, lights or sounds make bicycles more 'visible' to drivers who can't be bothered looking outside their cars and pay attention to traffic? Motorcycles already have all those things and car drivers keep yammering about how difficult it is to see motorcycles!

Ответ для SuperMarina

Not the point. The point is bike people won't accept the fact they are now regarded as equal partners in transport. They refuse to accept responsibility for themselves and others. They refuse to pay for the privilege of being in the network. And worst of all... Oops no space....

Ответ для crinolynne

Yeah, no space for bicycles? You like that, I assume. Also, you are not right. Car drivers are the most fanatical and opposed to any means of transport that isn't a private car. At the same time they whine and cry about all the traffic on the roads, and fail to see the connection.

Ответ для SuperMarina

Do not presume to know what I like. Nope, it's the bikes that are entitled scofflaws pejorative and worse. Then the ardent refusal to own their bad behavior that puts everyone at risk. Traffic is a cooperative activity.

And in a kei car you are: 1) better able to see a bicyclist over your hood 2) not sprawling all over the road

When they said it would be "too expensive" to add bicyclist detection to new vehicles in the US, they mispoke. What they meant to say is, "We're too stupid to add bicyclist detection to new vehicles." They also don't care.

Big nope