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Brendan Nyhan

A great story about something I had never thought about www.wsj.com/business/whi... (gift link)

This Simple White Line Is America’s Greatest Unsung InnovationYou know about the lightbulb and the iPhone. This is the unknown story of another ingenious creation that changed a nation.www.wsj.com
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Betty Perry-Fingal

I had no idea it was a new invention. Our Driver's Ed teacher back in the day explained its value to us, and I have frequently depended on it.

kenfinch

Yes it’s true, roadways are designed by engineers. 😉

Basically an Honest Bobo in Paradise

I'm here for the road dots controversy en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat's_e... 1934 UK en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botts%2... "California Caltrans engineers may have studied the concept of raised pavement markers as early as 1936"

Cat's eye (road) - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org
David Bailey

Great. Now the Trump Dept. of Transportation will likely declare the white line 'woke' and start withholding funds from states who refuse to get rid of it.

Ethan Smith

@bzcohen.bsky.social

Dog Has Thoughts

Science strives to get its facts straight .

Alex Pawlowski

Of course the WSJ would use fatalities per miles driven than per people to make its point about safety... While true the line was a revolution, it's clear we rely on paint only when looking at fatalities vs other countries

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Matt Perks

Fatalities per billion miles travelled is the standard way to make comparisons, but you're right it makes the US look a bit less appalling for road safety. In the end, though, by any statistic you choose US road safety is dreadful for a developed economy.

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Alastair Gittner

I've seen figures for road fatalities in RTAs from the US since the introduction of SUVs that look worrying

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Matt Perks

Their stats are just dreadful however you look at them.

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Parker Donham

What a bizarre comment. You're really stretching to find fault here. Fatalities per mile traveled is obviously the appropriate statistic. Probably why it's the industry standard.

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Alex Pawlowski

Exactly why it shouldn't be www.bloomberg.com/news/article...

The US Is Counting Traffic Deaths WrongBy emphasizing the number of people killed per mile rather than deaths per capita, traffic safety groups risk normalizing the factors that make American roads so deadly.www.bloomberg.com
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Parker Donham

Paywalled, but Claude detailed the pros and cons of both counting methods for me. The biggest con to your preferred method is that it conflates how much people drive and how dangerous is that driving. NHTSA and most highway safety researchers prefer fatalities per mile.

Club Signing Spurs 🤦‍♂️

Small unrelated point. There is an error in the story: The telephone was invented in Branford, Ontario.

captkickback

Now any passenger, or Uber driver, I’m in a vehicle with will hear about this.

Michael Kaplan

IRB would never approve

Steve Cicala

Note the Robert Moses legacy persists to this day: overpasses specifically designed to be too low for buses or a median-line train. I also liked the 1950’s natural field experiment description, often credited as a more recent innovation.

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Brian Schmidt

Yes, good for them for being willing to randomly assign streets as experiments and controls, when they're unsure if a policy works.

I’ve Had Enough of This

Edward Hines thought up the center white line, first using it in Wayne County Michigan in 1911. Was in the UP in June on vacation - there was a historical marker about the nation's first centerline on a rural state highway painted in 1917 on what is now County Road 492 in Marquette County.