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The chairman of the water polo Verein I played for while at school never did Abitur. He hated his job, and lived 24/7 for organising the teams and youthwork with our partner swimming Verein. He was a respected member of the community, despite being hit hard by Germany's school system as a kid

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I live in Germany & its complex. One of the reasons many well off Gemans send their kids to state schools as its precisely the sorting which gives them confidence to skip private schools which are often still seen as "schools for rich idiots who need extra help".

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Secondly, the role of say engineering is higher in Germany which means you get all sorts studying it and thats an area where mobility is easier than the traditional middle class haunt of fancy liberal arts degree then off to a "middle class job in London" path many well off Brits do.

Ответ для Nick Craw🇪🇺🇨🇦🇬🇱🇹🇭

I think the way German universities allow you to be flexible in studying and resitting also helps some students take up subjects like engineering. In the UK it's a Conveyor belt and if you come off it you're seen as lesser.

Ответ для Shuffle

Probably helps that German universities don't charge tens of thousands of Euros for a 3 year degree, so students feel they can afford to take a risk or change direction if necessary.

Ответ для Hen Gymro Heb Wlad

Definitely