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NEW: The State Department finalized a rule implementing a "visa bond" program for tourist/business visitor visas, to be imposed on a list of countries to be announced. Applicants for B1/B2 visas from those countries will have to pay a $10k, $15k, or $20k bond, to be paid back once the visa expires.

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But we want tourism, right?

What an absolute crock of shit.

Other countries will reciprocate in an ever expanding cycle until we are all trapped in here.

Even if you could afford the money, would you believe that Trump would give you your money back?

Ответ для Large Johnson

Right? I would never pay this

B1 visas are typically used by foreign business people coming in to evaluate US products and negotiate major purchases. All this rule will do is make European and Asian products more attractive to foreign buyers. Donny Bone Spur shot the US economy in the foot again.

I remember when they proposed this in the first term. My question remains who "beneficently" (usuriously) will be offering 10% bond services but turn out to be connected to the administration. Follow the money. Miller's not doing it for the money. Most of the rest need the incentive of the graft.

The State Department began a visa bond pilot program last year, which currently applies to nationals of the 50 countries listed below. World Cup fans may remember this as the reason that Vozinha's mom initially couldn't get a visa to see her son play (she couldn't afford to pay the bond).

Ответ для Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

Under the rule, the bond is paid back once the visa expires. Nationals of most of the listed countries only get single-entry B1/B2 visas lasting 3 months, so it's not a huge deal. But for a few of the countries, visas last 10 years, and you can't get the $$$ back earlier — and you get no interest.

Ответ для Aaron Reichlin-Melnick
Ответ для Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

… aren’t we supposed to be hosting the Olympics?

Ответ для Rachel Navarre

Yes, and if you come from one of those 50 countries (presuming they don't modify the list further) and would like to fly here to see athletes from your country compete, well, better be rich!

Ответ для Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

Thanks! Just wanted to make sure I’m really getting exactly how stupid this is. 🫠

Ответ для Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

I feel especially bad for any international students from these countries, as it pretty much prohibits family members from attending graduation. It will also hit international attendance to conferences and amateur athlete participation in training camps or recreational tournaments.

Ответ для Karen K. Ho

the ways they find to extort people is mind boggling.

Ответ для Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

$10-20k for a tourist visa seems like a big deal to me.

Ответ для kat 🌻

Yes, the clear intent is that only people with significant resources should be permitted to travel to the U.S., because of fears of visa overstays.

Ответ для Aaron Reichlin-Melnick
B

This is not because of fear of visa overstays. It’s just another pathway on the march toward zero entries to the US. Please stop using their stated logic as the actual reason they’re doing these things.

Ответ для Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

We won't pay any of that back. I doubt there's even enough employees who could keep up with this shit to know to do so.

Ответ для Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

Maybe these bonds have been around for longer than I think, but even for the 90 day visas, still kind of a huge deal to come up with an extra $10K or more on top of travel costs? Only maybe a quarter of *Americans* have that much in the bank.

Ответ для Andrew Rudalevige

The bonds began last year. There has been a law on the books for decades which permitted them, but until the Trump admin, the law had never been implemented (like so many other things he's done on immigration). And yes, that's the point; they don't want poor people who might overstay.

Ответ для Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

Indeed so. Poor people from "shithole countries," anyway! Thanks for the detail: another piece of broad congressional delegation gone awry...

Ответ для Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

It is a huge deal to gather 5-20k, even if you get it back months later. Not a new obstacle? My disabled sis has 4 caregivers all originally from other countries - ALL on this list! It is horrible that their family members cannot afford this visa to visit the US to be reunited for a time.

Ответ для Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

I still wouldn’t say not a huge deal. A lot of people would not be able to fund $10k, $15k or $20k even temporarily …

Ответ для Kat O’Brien

Sorry, to clarify, I was referring specifically to the fact that the bond doesn’t get paid back until the visa expires, which for many of these countries is only 3 months. Obviously, the amount of money itself is a huge deal for most people from these countries.

Ответ для Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

Got it.

Ответ для Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

More grifting.

Ответ для Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

Consider also all of the shady bond brokers and scammers that prospective visitors will invariably fall victim to, because of this new rule.

Ответ для Aaron Reichlin-Melnick
C

So if you get a B visa and then come and adjust status to permanent resident, you forfeit the bond

Is this the same basic idea as the Bracero bond program that the people contracting labor would pay?

Ответ для Everything A Border

No, this is for tourists and people coming for business meetings or conferences, and is paid by the person themselves.