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Nor should we ignore that the built environment really dictates what is possible. And SHFs on 1/4 acre+ lots forever absolutely = car dependence.

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I find it incredibly funny when local elected officials who represent far-flung suburbs where people live on acres of land complain in meetings that the county transit agencies aren’t spending money on frequent bus service to their communities 🙄

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Like ok yes we know you want a steady supply of housekeepers and minimum wage workers to come labor for you and then go far away at the end of the day but it is not financially viable to send busses an hour out of the city every 15 minutes, Carol

Ответ для Meatwad Ron: Summer of Ron

In metro Atlanta, the suburbanites actively fight mass transit expansions because "crime" while complaining about the traffic on their commute, leading to "just one more lane" syndrome.

Ответ для Wes Pinkle

Thankfully we have hit the limits on that in town. Now they might be able to expand some of the outlying highways, but 75, 85, 20, and the perimeter are all set in stone. Now just to wait for the pain to force Marta expansion.

Ответ для Billiam

They're actively adding express lanes to 400 tho?

Ответ для Politics of Cars

Not in town. That’s OTP.

Ответ для Billiam

oh I misread, you're right. Still more traffic funnelled into the city, perimeter getting not express lanes too :(

Ответ для Politics of Cars

Every time I start to feel a little homesick for the ATL, I read a thread like this and it goes away. 😅

Ответ для Tamara Keel

My last commute in Atlanta, '98-'00, started in Virginia-Highland, went to my part time job out in Cumming, then at about 4PM I'd head across Buford Dam over to LZU (Gwinnett County Airport in Lawrenceville ) then about midnight I'd head back down I-85 to Virginia-Highland. 100mi/day on a Suzuki.

Ответ для Tamara Keel

yeah that would be a nightmare on a bike now. even 316 is a shitshow

Ответ для Wes Pinkle

"Dad, I hear what you're saying but I just can't visualize how somebody could walk 10 miles to the proposed Cumberland station while hiding our 27" oak console TV in his pants"

Ответ для Wes Pinkle

Whoops you beat me to the punch should have read one more post down in the thread.

Ответ для Wes Pinkle

I can vouch for the fear of mass transit bringing "crime" (translation: "thugs"; ie, blacks) out of downtown Atlanta into the white-flight exurban areas. Fuck that shit. I wanna be able to get from Athens to ATL airport without having to leave my car in long term parking.

Ответ для Katman Du

Also I think it’s important to note that (most) people aren’t saying nobody should have a car, what’s at issue is the ability of people to use reliable and affordable public transit if they want to

Ответ для Meatwad Ron: Summer of Ron

Also, not for nothing but if city buses made regular stops in those same suburbs the residents would have an absolute conniption.