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Julianna 💎

Watched the first episode of Ludwig (the current David Mitchell vehicle) and, wow, a TV show about an autistic-coded savant that didn’t make me incredibly uncomfortable

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darcyswickham

It’s such a brilliant show.

Julianna 💎

The scene where he’s having a panic attack in the car about the sensory overload of just being around people was so well-written and acted

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Julianna 💎

Obviously it’s just episode 1 and could easily fall apart later, but my parents compared it to Professor T and it is vastly better than that

Dr Inigo Purcell

Said this to Stephen when he was first watching it but the fact that those close to him are used to him being autistic and not, you know, surprised by his quirks felt so incredibly refreshing.

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Julianna 💎

Yeah, and I liked the wife saying that his more outgoing brother also struggles with the same things, he’s just been better at coping

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Spinky’s Mama

What resonated for me is that John has genuine connections with Lucy and (shown to a lesser extent) his nephew. He’s not the ‘genius who doesn’t suffer fools gladly’. He’s got people who know and value him, and he values them even as he has overwhelm.

Sorrel

I didn’t get very far with it but I really liked how they represented the cost alongside the ‘superpower’. Shows often show either the cost of being autistic and it’s misery porn or they act like it’s a superpower with only a few minor social costs. This felt like a realistic(ish) balance.

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Owen Michael

I spent a while considering what /implicitly/ autistic characters I think work and why (this being one of them) and ultimately concluded a big part of it is just "are they shown having autistic coded /difficulties/, or do they just have a superpower that's an excuse for them to treat others badly"

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Owen Michael

(I think misery porn is for whatever reason much more likely to be explicit?)

AKMB

The show does change tone a bit between episode one and two (probably pilot vs full series?) but I still enjoyed the show a lot

Questing Vole

I'm always quite surprised when reminded that Mitchell can actually properly act.

M.J. Ferguson

Really enjoyed it - as someone who partially approached it in the same way - and becomes rather enthralling as the series goes on. Probably gonna have to give it a re-watch before the new run, to remind myself of the overall story arc (not gonna spoil any more than that!).

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Alexander Williams

Ludwig is pretty good though I do find the solutions pretty far fetched at times.

Ash

what if Sherlock but y'know, good

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Julianna 💎

Tbf, I don’t think Sherlock is nearly as bad as shit like Professor T/The Good Doctor, there’s an air of admiration to Sherlock not being so bound by social niceties

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Martin Concagh

Also Sherlock‘s autism (?) is played very differently between adaptations, some even play with the idea that his quirks are a bit of a put-on

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Martin Concagh

I personally think one of the best depictions of autism on tv is Jeremy Brett’s Holmes

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Alan Pennie

Why was Sherlock so bad? It remains something of a mystery to me.

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Alan Pennie

I mean, Moffat and Gatiss are both talented writers.

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CatholicGeekery

Tbf some of the same flaws (constant glazing of the protagonist over actually writing him doing clever things) were present in Moffat's run on Doctor Who, so it seems to be a weakness of his in general. Even their Dracula adaptation had a bit of a smarm problem

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Michael

My favoured bit was after they did a clearly impossible fake death scene and everybody took the piss out of it they wrote a whole episode making fun of fans that cared about their stories and trying to solve the mysteries

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Alan Pennie

That was definitely the show's shark jump. I was prepared to like it (despite all the meretriciousness) up to that point.

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Spinky’s Mama

I prefer Gatiss’s Bookish because it has actual stakes for the protagonist (a gay man in 1940s Britain) and gives him relationships which don’t arise from his detection skills. He’s in a lavender marriage which isn’t a loveless one, which allows for a bit of complexity and pathos.

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CatholicGeekery

Partly (imo) because it was addicted to being about how cool and special and sexy Sherlock Holmes is, whereas the original stories were about, you know, the mystery at hand. If you want me to like a detective character, just show him being a detective, don't just constantly hype him up.

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Alan Pennie

I suppose the problem is that the Jeremy Brett show really was unsurpassable in showing us Sherlock the detective so the newer show had to go in a different (and ultimately unprofitable) direction.

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CatholicGeekery

No argument here. If you're not going to reanimate Jeremy Brett through dark magic, why bother televising Holmes?

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CatholicGeekery

Ironically, given that I doubt it was at all intentional, Brett feels like a better portrayal of a neurodivergent detective than Cumberbatch.