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not just the right-wing media, half of centrist punditry was convinced that this was somehow going to be game-changing, out of a combination of affinity, idiocy, and their deep desire to surrender to perceived power.

Zoomer Antimillenarian

I think the aftermath of the Kirk shooting really proves just how desensitized ordinary Americans have gotten to low-intensity gun violence, which to be fair is in part his own damn fault. To the right-wing media, though, the fact one of their own could get cut down like this was a genuine trauma.

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They treated Kirk's murder like 9/11 where you couldn't say a bad word about him or you were anti-American. Like he was beloved across the spectrum. MLK was assassinated he wasn't elevated like this. The conservative strain just continues to flow through our institutions

For a generation they have been telling us that gun violence was just something we have to accept, and when they tried to do their "when this happens to us it's a travesty" thing and people just shrugged because they've bought the original lie.

Ответ для The Birds The Turtles and The Bees

Didn't help that Kirk was still spurting blood when every right wing pundit started salivating at how to turn this into their advantage.

Ответ для The Birds The Turtles and The Bees

It was when that guy injured literally 100s of people at the Los Vegas country music festival and nothing happened that it was clear this was the future.

Ответ для The Birds The Turtles and The Bees

It also didn't help that the vast majority of Americans didn't know who this guy was. Some random podcaster gets gatted, and suddenly the media and government are treating him like the GOP MLK? That's just too absurd to get randos to go along with.

Ответ для The Birds The Turtles and The Bees

His own website started selling t shirts the very same day. They did this to themselves and the rest of us get to pay.

anyway every man's death diminishes me, for I am involved in mankind, but some diminish me a lot less than most.

Ответ для BeijingPalmer

something something "Some men..." Oscar Wilde

Ответ для BeijingPalmer

To the Louvre

Ответ для Angry Cephalopod

Send not to know for whom the bell tolls; it doesn’t

Ответ для Angry Cephalopod

For whom the bell tinkles.

Ответ для countanton

For whom the clown nose honks.

Ответ для BeijingPalmer

It’s important to have priorities.

Ответ для BeijingPalmer

Well, he preferred to get assassinated over tightening gun laws so he died doing what he loved to do.

The media is only in group chats with republicans and it was never more evident than in their belief he was something like a figure listened to by 150 million Americans

Ответ для Simon

To a bunch of the stupidest media members out there - this isn’t restricted to literal group chats but includes your Republican staffer cocktail hours where you and they try to get laid. And if you’re not there you’re not important enough to be referenced here

It was just a complete misreading of the cultural phenomenon; you might as well have expected the death of Sid Vicious to cause a generation to give up taking drugs

I think this pseudo-consensus is part of what set him up to be memed. When adults across the political spectrum say “take this seriously” teens find it fun to do the opposite

Ezra’s gambit makes sense in this context

Astounding that it boiled down to "he was interpersonally nice to me on a podcast," but it did!

Ответ для Scary Mr. Olmec Man

you have to remember that these people's entire success is essentially social, not intellectual.

Ответ для BeijingPalmer

you're telling me Ezra Klein's not a great thinker

Ответ для Scary Mr. Olmec Man

I will say of Ezra that he is a genuinely kind person who has been personally generous to several people I know without any hope or possibility of social gain, and I think that kindness absolutely blinded him to what Kirk was.

To a public personality, the murder of another famous person aways has a bit of "it could happen to me," while to nobodies, assassinations are less scary than random mass violence.

Also Charlie Kirk was real to them in a way that Melissa Hortmand, Gabby Giffords, and the victims of every other assassination attempt and mass shooting were not.

Ответ для Martin Concagh

Hasan Piker’s uncharacteristically po-faced response to the shooting was quite revealing in this regard.

Ответ для Martin Concagh

Did not know the term "po-faced", but now I do

Ответ для Joshua G. Schraiber

Piker instinctively recognized that he and Kirk were in the same business of rotting brains for personal gain.

Ответ для BeijingPalmer

"Ezra Klein’s recent column gives the game away: he talks about how horrified he was by Kirk’s assassination because he identifies with Kirk. Kirk, like Klein, talked for a living. So even if they had different policy positions, to some degree, Klein sees himself in Kirk /1 bsky.app/profile/kenw...

NYTimes: affirmative action for mediocre editors angry at MeToo

"Charlie Kirk valued debate and free speech put me on his Professor Watchlist for writing a book he didn't like blocked me for fact-checking his lies bsky.app/profile/kevi... "ezra klein leading voice who doesn't fucking remember violent aftermath of 2020 election was stoked by charlie kirk himself

Ответ для NYTimes: affirmative action for mediocre editors angry at MeToo

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Ответ для Joshua G. Schraiber

It’s a British-ism that I never quite realized was one because there’s no better word for it in American English.

Ответ для Martin Concagh

"cant" is also mostly a Britishism - as in 'pious cant' - and really could do with introduction into American

Ответ для Joshua G. Schraiber

it's a great term, very handy

They don't have any idea what Americans are actually all about

Ответ для Brooke

I keep randomly seeing the box with OBJ at the end of some posts like this one. Also on other users posts. Any idea what it means?

Ответ для BeautifulPlumage

It's a Unicode symbol replacement, I've got it too, it means there's a character 'object' our device doesn't recognise, probably an emoji I assume Apple have done a software update and given people new sillies to type

Ответ для Mat Bowles (He/Þei)

I guessed that later but wasn't sure. Thanks!