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The feds just made it official: They won't fight a bid by members of the "Broadview 6" for attorneys' fees. They do "not concede that the United States has acted or done anything to warrant those fees." They also say there should be no discovery. Full filing: cst.brightspotcdn.com/dc/d1/e34a37...

Jon Seidel

There have been plenty twists and turns in Chicago's federal courthouse since the "Broadview Six" case collapsed in late May. It's been a lot to keep up with. So here's where things stand, one month later, via @chicago.suntimes.com: chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2026/0...

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Does the government think getting the case dismissed will divest the court of jurisdiction to investigate misconduct? Cause I don’t think that’s how it works.

I’m sorry but “there should be no discovery?” What in the name of Lionel Hutz was the govt even thinking? There have to be clients who represented themselves, who still did better than the govt on this case. Shabby work, overt politicization, obviously weaponizing the DOJ against political dissent

“so-called Hyde Amendment” is an interesting opening line by the Government in light of the indisputable fact that the statute exists…

Ответ для DGM

It is remarkable for the Government, which once enjoyed the presumption of regularity, to argue discovery to explore its wrongdoing is unnecessary because it already conceded it is a vexatious litigant.

Ответ для DGM

Reading it as, "so-called Class Syllabus" by a failing undergrad.

Ответ для DGM

Government: "I'm sorry, what? 'Laws'? Sure, are these 'laws' in the room with us right now? Haha checkmate, woke cucks"

Ответ для DGM

Well, once they have to describe it, they very much have to pretend it isn't real. "vexatious, frivolous, or in bad faith"

Ответ для DGM

Not to defend those crooks (the government lawyers) too much, but the actual name of the amendment is "Pub.L. 105-119, § 617, Nov. 26, 1997, 111 Stat. 2519." The Hyde Amendment is an informal name, hence the phrase.

Here is some money. Please don't look in the file cabinets.

Which means THERE DEFINITELY needs to be discovery

I certainly hope there is discovery. If the Judge won’t order it Dems in Congress need to blow the lid off of this festering mess.

This is wild.

If they say there should not be any discovery then there absolutely must be.

KEEP GOING!!! Please Broadview 6, file USC 42 § 1983 action against the individual prosecutors for Constitutional violations. Get into THEIR pockets.

They need to look into other grand jury's that indicted people (i.e. James Comey). I would bet they lied and did other illegal acts to those grand juries to bring the indictments forward just as they did with the Broadview 6.

There's definitely going to be discovery, and while they're right to be terrified, they're also pubic servants who should forfeit their jobs for denying transparency.

The federal government refuses to concede to the findings of a federal court in a case they are not appealing That's not normal

Kind of like complying with a SCOTUS ruling to reimburse all the illegally imposed tariffs. While claiming that holding the global economy hostage was genius! Everyone agrees tariffs were over 600% fair. But because of the greedy world complaining, tяump ok’d to return a% of his ill gotten gains.

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Discovery must be incredibly damning for the governemnt to say sure, we will pay your attorney’s fees. I expect some flowers and an edible arrangements to be thrown in for good measure

So... have the Broadview 6 considered one of those ten billion dollar deals that Trump did with the IRS?

' "In good faith" is doing some pretty heavy lifting here.... '

The only thing I can think of for the defendants is to say “the government is claiming we were arrested because it had reasonable cause, which is defamation when we did nothing wrong”. Maybe Abugazaleh has a cause of action when the government agent ran over her foot without cause but that’s hard.

Contradiction in government response: How can defendants be entitled to fees under a statute that requires a finding of vexatious/frivolous/bad faith conduct, if the government denies any such conduct occurred?

Ответ для hurin-thalion

Oh, they don't deny it occurred. But they don't concede it occurred, either.

As you highlighted: “does not concede that the United States has acted or done anything to warrant those fees.)” if they don’t agree that the fees are warranted and they don’t (yet) agree on the amount of fees, it doesn’t sound to me like they’re actually making much of a concession at this point

No discovery?

Interesting bit of lying where they imply that this is a settlement, i.e. negotiated between the parties

100% there needs to be discovery.

We didn’t do anything wrong, but we’d like to keep it hidden anyway if it’s all the same to you.

Ответ для Jo

Well, our money, so I’m sure that helps

Seems to me they want to move onto what is a reasonable reimbursement.

There absolutely needs to be discovery.

Wow. This...doesn't happen. The fed government just rolling over like this. If they are that desparate to avoid discovery, then they are sitting on discoverable documents (comms?) that implicate people at the top of the DoJ food chain or higher, into the Oval Office (Stephen Miller, methinks).

Ответ для thumbingmyway

Yep!

Bring on the discovery then!

so like this isn't actually a settlement right? They're just conceding and pretending it is one?

It's a shame that the fees are what they are, but there will be time to come back and sue for vindictive prosecution and do the discovery then.

would discovery be available if they filed a malicious prosecution suit? i would hate to see the B 6 go through more court, just wondering aloud what will happen if the judge denies discovery bc the govt folded immediately. but maybe judge perry uses her judicial discretion to act in the public good

Seems like discovery is warranted if there’s any disagreement about the fee amount!

Can the judge demand discovery anyway? Is there a "this is super fishy" clause?

I am guessing 'Discovery' is the relevant issue here?

I pray someone sends @marisakabas.bsky.social an insider hot tip on Signal about whatever the Chicago federal prosecutors are so desperately trying to cover up.

There should be no discovery, hm? Nothing fishy about that at all

The corrupt people who ordered and implemented this harassment should be on the hook for those fees.

Ответ для Accountabilabuddy🔻

This right here! You know they're making money hand over fist from being corrupt a-holes, they can clean up their own damn mess. The taxpayers shouldn't have to foot the bill, most of us have been yelling about the corruption and cruelty since January 2025

J

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

""without admitting any wrongdoing, here is a fuckton of money to make it stop"

I don't understand what the problem is. The government can just burn all the documents and delete all the files and get rid of them. Then they could just manufacture some new ones that show them in a good light and present those as the originals. why are they bothering trying to withhold them? ....

Ответ для Now new and improved w 60% snark, 40% reasoned factual discourse

afraid somebody in the office might have backed them up

Ответ для Now new and improved w 60% snark, 40% reasoned factual discourse

It is very hard to do that in a way that holds up under scrutiny. And this is the DoJ that has twice emailed sealed documents (Jack Smith’s report) to a hostile witness (Smith himself) and a criminal defendant. They can’t they even handle easy corruption, ya think they can carry this off?😂

especially no discovery

Nahh. Let's do discovery

Ответ для BK

Discovery will still be available when they due the feds for vindictive prosecution.

Paying fees and no discovery. Can they force investigations into what they are hiding?

Yeah I fuckin bet they don't want discovery

Mostly beside the point, but is "has acted or done anything" a typical construction in legal writing? I somehow doubt it.

Holy. Fing. Shit. "They also say there should be no discovery." Translation: there is even more damning evidence of misconduct and malfeasance that they don't want to have to produce for the court. There is no other possible reason for this course of action by the Feds.

Ответ для PaulG

Quick follow-up: Some of the evidence will be of intentional perjury. They are worried they'll be disbarred.

Ответ для Liz Ahern 🌈🇲🇽🏳️‍⚧️☮️

EXACTLY

If the government is basically going "Look, we'll do whatever you want, just don't proceed with discovery," it sure seems like a judge's response should be, "What's in there that you don't want people to see that badly?"

Balancing the scales of recovering attorneys fees vs getting those sweet sweet communications.

In almost 30 years of practicing law in both private practice and government jobs, I don't think I've ever seen an instance in which the government simply*gives up* and agrees to pay attorney's fees like this. This just...doesn't happen. Like, ever. Whatever they're hiding must be *really* bad.

Ответ для Langdon Grant

Not a lawyer. Is there any way they can force discovery, or since the gov is conceding, can it remain hidden?

What pizza do you order for the 1pm “here’s why you shouldn’t look here, Your Honor” attorney spitball session?

Ответ для Flannel Shirt LCSW

Large with bitterness and extra corruption

No discovery. hahahahabreathehahaha

They won't survive discovery.

Judge should order discovery anyway

Ответ для Four Legs Good

Any normal judge reading this, definitely would order it, I believe.

Wow, they are willing to pay up to hide what happened.

I'd like Kat et. al. to start asking for just ridiculous shit, just to see how much they want to keep these secrets of theirs. A pony, that one super rare Beanie Baby from back in the day, a talking aardvark, Ted Cruz's liver...

“should be no discovery.” The operative term is should.

They desperately need to avoid discovery. I hope they have to go through it anyway.

We did nothing wrong, but let us pay you for your trouble. Also, no need for discovery since we did nothing wrong and there would be nothing in there that says otherwise. Please just take the money and go away!

Damn, that evidence must **really** be something else.

The judge may want to know whether the government abused the court's processes, with an eye to disciplining the government lawyers responsible. That may be a reason to force the government to cough up some of the requested information.

They should ask for Boutros’ house and car.

I hope the "Broadview 6" don't give up on getting discovery to prove their case for their vindictive prosecutions.

Ответ для Deb ❌👑

Suing the fed government for damages used to be laughable in court.... Now????

You know the Feds know they can't win this one if they're just stepping aside like this.