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Every time someone says "There has to be a path to redemption!" I'm all, "Does there?" Kind of depends on how bad their behavior was, how much damage they inflicted, and what they have done to make amends. Forgiveness cannot be demanded by the perpetrator, only given freely by the harmed.

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It's kind of funny how the calls for forgiveness always come before the calls for contrition. Or even any expectation that the perpetrator stop doing the bad thing in any way

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