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Jenny

Yes! Thank you! I’m so happy that West Nashville has good bus service and parks and bike lanes, that is excellent, but those resources are desperately needed in 37211, and then beyond into Antioch—which would be the equivalent of the extremely generous bus line through Belle Meade out into Bellevue

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Jonathan Magnolia Gilligan

Years ago, I did a study for Vanderbilt about how easily employees could commute by transit. Employees earning over $80k mostly lived west and had great bus access & could commute easily. Those earning under $40k mostly lived east, with terrible access to transit & commutes would be very hard.

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jeremiah

did you collect data on which of those employees actually used transit? I’d imagine it was the opposite of who you found had the easiest access

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jeremiah

from WeGo data, we see the south and east routes have higher ridership (52/55/56/23), despite their sub-urban development pattern that puts many homes out of an easy 5-10 minute walk shed of the stops while the west routes (3/7/50) have lower ridership despite higher access to both housing and jobs

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jeremiah

and anecdotally from my time behind the wheel, i also observed much of the ridership on the 3/7/50 was folks who lived off the other higher ridership routes and transferred to those routes to get work

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jeremiah

the 7 being the most extreme as the only radial route in the system where morning peak actually carries more riders out of downtown than into downtown and the afternoon peak carries more riders into downtown that out of it

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Jenny

My guess: people who have the most options tend to use public transit less. People over here walk pretty far on disconnected sidewalks and the side of the road to get to bus stops. But that’s just my guess.

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Jenny

I’m sure some people with that sweet sweet west side transit access use it as much as possible, but they probably have many neighbors and coworkers who only travel by car?

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Jonathan Magnolia Gilligan

Only anecdotal, but I talked to a bunch of folks who lived in Bellevue and West Meade who loved the bus, but yeah, a lot love sitting alone in their car in bumper-to-bumper traffic on 70/Harding/West End.

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Jonathan Magnolia Gilligan

I didn't get good data on transit use. Some anecdotal info included folks in the South and East who were reluctant to use transit because they didn't have safe places to wait for the bus (no sidewalks), & (especially women) felt unsafe walking home alone from isolated bus stops after dark.

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Indie

Shouldn't we stop giving the best routes to rich people who don't use or need it and return routes to those who are barely getting by? This is Nashville and that's not how we roll, but a woman can dream.

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jeremiah

can you clarify what you mean? it sounds like you think we should remove or reduce service on west end/hillsboro to add service in south Nashville? transit planning is more than just drawing a line on a map to touch the most people, it should connect folks to employment/services/amenities

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jeremiah

transit when done well is about redistributing opportunity and access i think west end and hillsboro both accomplish that, connecting folks in south/east/antioch to jobs in west nashville they couldn’t otherwise access

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Jenny

What do you think is the most feasible solution to reduce WeGo trip time from OHB & Nolensville Rd over to the far reaches of Bellevue, for example, which would take close to 2 hrs one way? My fantasy is adding way more crosstown routes—with a slew of new buses and shuttles of course.

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Indie

Does it accomplish that? Crosstown routes would. I've known people who spent 4 hours on the bus for part-time jobs in bougie areas, but that's a damn hell of a lot to ask.

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Jonathan Magnolia Gilligan

What really frustrated me was that in 2018 there was a referendum that would have created great transit for lower income people living near Nolensville and Gallatin Pikes, but a lot of grassroots progressive activists opposed it because...

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Jonathan Magnolia Gilligan

they thought that providing great transit would cause those areas to gentrify and displace the people living there.

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Jonathan Magnolia Gilligan

A lot of this opposition reflected Megan Barry's top-down technocratic approach to transit planning that left neighborhoods feeling they didn't have a voice in the process, and ...

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Jonathan Magnolia Gilligan

it also led to insights that you can't do transit planning in isolation. It needs to be tightly integrated with other things, like affordable housing, to ensure that the outcome will really improve equitable access and make people's lives more secure.

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Jeremy NT

I think it's hard to overstate how huge this failure was and how much it put Nashville into the bad timeline. If Barry herself wasn't such a flawed messenger it really might have passed and it would've been a transformative change. Instead, we've clawed out a few BRT lanes by ~2035...

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Jenny

It was a big failure, totally agree, but can we hang that failure on primarily on Megan Barry? Was she such a flawed messenger, or was it a big lift to convince people to spend big money on transit when they were used to living in the land of low property taxes, no state income tax?

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Jenny

I imagine a larger amount of the pushback came from conservative groups than progressive activists, no? I voted in favor, and I don’t remember hearing as much pushback from the left as I did from the usual anti-tax crowd, though to be fair I was busy with parenting life and didn’t follow it closely.

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Jonathan Magnolia Gilligan

It was a weird alliance between the right-wing Beaman and Koch Brothers forces and progressive forces, like PATHE, who united against the referendum. The big post-mortem highlighted Barry's failure to engage with African-American communities. transitcenter.org/publication/...

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Jenny

Oh man. I remember the Koch Bros getting their sweaty old hands all over it, but I should’ve guessed that the campaign team did not partner adequately with Black communities who were understandably leery of big transit projects. Sighhhhhh

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Jonathan Magnolia Gilligan

It was so frustrating. I was very active advocating for it. It really hurt to see it fail so spectacularly.

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Ben Vaught

This is fundamentally a land use problem, not a transit problem. We’ve reserved broad areas where transit would naturally work well for 7 figure mansions and intentionally pushed more affordable homes to the fringes for decades

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Ben Vaught

Like, the NYC subway system, as huge as it is, wouldn’t even really cover all of Davidson county. And it takes a city of 8.5 million to support that network

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Ben Vaught

logistically, I think “why are we spending money on safety improvements for gallatin pike when 80% of the walkshed is high six to low 7 figure single family homes?” is basically the same question you’re asking here