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Skunk - It's the billionaires and trump, stupid.

No, I really haven't because we have had what 5 posts? And you refuse to actually answer a basic question so I think you know that Norway is not 'hell on earth' and is a potential working model to shape social democracy upon. However, you have decided socialism is the only answer. I disagree.

Bobhisattva

7 июл., 01:24

Wait, you're trying to use Norway as the standard of "capitalism good?" You have even less idea of what you're talking about than I thought. Ask people in South America or Southeast Asia if they give a shit about Norway's standard of living. Which is mostly good due to what you'd call socialism!

Skunk - It's the billionaires and trump, stupid.

8 июл., 01:17

How is calling Norway “socialism” more accurate than calling it social democracy? Norway has markets, private ownership, business formation, and liberal democracy, plus strong taxes, unions, public services, and welfare protections. That mixed model is exactly what I’m defending.

Skunk - It's the billionaires and trump, stupid.

8 июл., 01:17

Also, when I cite Norway, you say its success can't be credited to capitalism because it's in the global capitalist economy. But then you credit Norway's success mostly to socialism. By what principle are you separating those influences? Why does global capitalism invalidate my point but not yours?

Bobhisattva

8 июл., 02:51

I already mentioned how the high standard of living in Norway and other "first world" countries depends on the exploitation of labor in the global south but you just breezed on past that to show how ignorant you are once again.