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Portland Trail Blazers officials told city councilors the city needs to do more than just help fund a renovation of the Moda Center if it wants to assure the Blazers’ long-term presence in Oregon.

Trail Blazers demand more than arena funding in Portland City Council appearanceAfter weeks of mounting tension, the team said that public funding for the Moda Center is just part of its idea of a deal.www.opb.org
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Bye

Then the city should receive ownership shares

Ответ для The cool clear water🏞️

Yes. 100% of those shares that can exist should belong to the city and/or citizens of Portland.

Ответ для Paul

My hottest take is cities/ communities should own these pro sports teams, not individuals.

Ответ для Skrrt Russell

How can we make that happen? It’d be so much better.

Ответ для Paul

Yeah, I don't know man; I fix machines in a factory. 🙂 That said, there are some massive soccer teams that are supporter owned and from what I understand, the Green Bay Packers are similarly supporter owned?

Ответ для Skrrt Russell

In soccer St Pauli comes to mind and the I think you’re right about the Packers. MLS (the league) is single entity so probably would just say “how dare you, billionaires only,” but who knows?

Ответ для Paul

I don't entirely understand the structure of how it works, but Real Madrid and Barça are supporter owned last I knew. Tbf, I haven't followed Liga in like 10 years, but I know Barcelona was.

Ответ для Paul

I would really like to imagine the discourse on what are essentially public employees being paid $10s of millions when for the most part, “the public” are the shittiest bosses ever. Free coffee for public employees is “extraordinary waste” and your star point guard is in a slump…🫣

Ответ для Phred of pteranodon pterrace

Sports talk radio will now be the center of all political discourse

Ответ для Phred of pteranodon pterrace

In theory, owning a franchise like that is profitable. Most public services *cost* taxes. This would be the exception.

Ответ для Paul

I don’t object to the idea at all, but I suddenly imagined how insane it would be to be, say, in a city with a garbage fire of a sports team or two. Imagining the calls to a Chicago sports radio show…

Ответ для Phred of pteranodon pterrace

Which is funny, kinda. But it also means a city gets a team as successful as it wants. Wanna win everything? Vote yourself a top tier roster.

Ответ для Phred of pteranodon pterrace

Do you think it's miles away from how college football coaches are typically some of the highest paid state employees?

Ответ для Skrrt Russell

Oh, absolutely, but across lots of administrative lines and multiples of additional salaries. I love the idea, I can just imagine the wild intertwining of the media environment

Ответ для Skrrt Russell

Sports teams could be run as worker-owned cooperatives. The players should own their team.

Ответ для Christina W.

Ooooooh, I like this idea!

Bye

I want the blazers to stay. Sharing my voice to counter all the people acting it wrong harm Portland if they leave.

Ответ для Great ideas

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Ответ для Justin Morton

Look above. They all seem to be so what, they can leave. I'm with clark t that intangibles can't be monetized. The loss will be felt and not only on spreadsheets.

Ответ для Great ideas

Ok. Your previous post hurt my brain to read. But I understand your position now. And I don’t disagree with you. I just don’t think the city of Portland is in the mood to give handouts to billionaires.

Ответ для Justin Morton

And I think they're being fed a bunch of DSA bs. I just posted this thread on Brandon Mullins post because he's now given up on the blazers and he thinks he has a pulse … I'll post it below

Ответ для Great ideas

I hope the DSA gets blamed if they do leave. I'm hoping though that AVT will show we have a commitment to a healthy vibrant city. I'm not a huge AvT fan bc it's wierd but if they can flex here they could earn their keep in my head Knight money being used well to keep basketball in Nike town

Ответ для Great ideas

You use a lot of acronyms that I don’t understand.

Ответ для Justin Morton

Albino vision trust They got $400 million from Phil Knight to develop a neighborhood When they talk about Rukiya Adams AVT this is what they're talking about I follow along… Please ask for any clarification because I never know how much people know

Ответ для Great ideas

The DSA are the Democrat socialist of America I'm very concerned as to their goals Their infiltrating the Democratic Party to get elected, but they may not have the same goals And it's a little bit weird Nice to meet you👋

Ответ для Great ideas

An article from a While back. The people involved in this I think are talented but I don't think they are exempt from doing things like skimming off the top or benefiting their friends or whatever. I hope that in the end, we have a good outcome! opb.org/article/2023...

Phil Knight gives $400M to benefit Black PortlandersThe gift from Knight and his wife Penny Knight to the 1803 Fund – an initiative revealed Monday – is meant to fund education services, art programs and other projects for Black Portlanders in the inne...opb.org
Ответ для Great ideas

Now that I think about it, could've been a really clever move by him If we lose basketball in Nike town, we really are a joke We put sneakers on the map! We changed footwear. But we couldn't keep our franchise I'm even more skeptical of our city if blazers leave now bsky.app/profile/bepo...

Great ideas

ChatGPT: Losing the Blazers would be more significant than many people realize. There are almost no examples of a U.S. metro the size of Portland that had a Big Three team (NBA, NFL, or MLB) and then ended up with none. Comparable cities like Sacramento, Salt Lake City, Memphis, Con't..

Ответ для Great ideas

Oh STFU

Ответ для Great ideas

The DSA isn’t the problem, this shitty owner is. 🙄 Place blame in the right place.

Ответ для Great ideas

The intangibles of having a shitty owner that dumps on your city constantly?

Ответ для Great ideas

oh I absolutely love contrarians

Ответ для You’re Tedious & Boring

Well, you do have a cat that you call a Satanist so it tracks. So you don't care if the blazers sever the relationship with Portland? If yes, noted. If not, nice to meet you and I don't think your cat is Satan. Felines are curious creatures.

Ответ для Great ideas

My cat was born that way. anyway, no more public funds for private profits.

Ответ для You’re Tedious & Boring

I think many of us believe there is public benefit and it's not all for private benefit.

Ответ для Great ideas

How about they eat our shit and hair

Bye Felicia

Either he's trying to get out of the deal or he reeeeally doesn't know Portland.

Did he not do his due diligence before buying the franchise?

I am so sick of sports ball people making everyone fund their bullshit.

IOW extortion. The enshittification of the Trailblazers.

Bye. I won’t grieve. We do not subsidize billionaires full stop.

no more public funding of private profits

fuck the Trail Blazers and their threats. be gone. the owners earn so much profit and pay for practically nothing. they have more than enough money to fund the renovation they deem so absolutely necessary.

Ответ для You’re Tedious & Boring

The team has an obligation to upkeep moda center in their previous agreement. They dont want to spend money, so they have let it deteriorate and the city is floating the idea of suing the team regarding this. so it is worse; the trailblazers are demanding more public money AND to drop the lawsuit.

Ответ для ding🔻chavez

thank you for clarifying the situation. yes, it is worse than I thought.

Why not bulldoze it tomorrow so y'all don't have to deal with the bull crap storm coming

Ответ для windupminfilia

It’s a nice place to have a concert, just kick the dead beat tenants out and fully repurpose it.

im sorry but this new owner can go fuck himself

See ya. Don't extort this town and don't extort its people.

We will become Pickle City and not give a shit about basketball and hold 3 times the amount of concerts in the moda center instead. Fuck Dundon forever

Who the fuck would take the trailblazers? I dont see how this slimy fuck thinks he is going to extort the city and taxpayers by threatening to take his "business" elsewhere

Fuck Tom Dundon. Boycott Panda Express.

At this point the Blazers can fuck themselves.

Ответ для ProfMasseyGO

Quite literally they’re contractually obligated to be here until 2030. They can suck shit with no money for an arena for 4 years while they shop around.

Dear Blazers, Don't let the door hit ya Where the good lord split ya

How about fuck off?

G

F this guy turn Portland into Dallas - right

Ответ для gregj1

Without the team Portland's core may become more like downtown Dallas.

"Billionaire throws a tantrum, demands city bows to their whim, after being told no."

Their demands are hella vague too! New owner likely wants to move the team. Portland should absolutely not give them a fucking dime!

Ответ для Chuck Loder

Oregon has already agreed to the remaining $480 million. And Kotex is claiming the city counsel is "playing politics" by following what constituents are asking of them. None of us what $120 million to go down a black hole away from the city.

Portland Trail Blazers officials are cordially invited to ligma.

I'm a huge Blazers fan but what the Blazer ownership outlined in this meeting is ridiculous. Dundon, who got rich off subprime mortgages, appears to believe he can just roll over anyone. More dissappointing is the NBA's reticence to force Dundon to act in good faith on an arena deal.

Ответ для Ryan Lounsbury

Not even mortgages. Used car loans!

Ответ для Ryan Lounsbury

Whats more disappointing is OR Gov doesn't see why this is a problem.

The return on investment in stadiums simply isn't very good. Putting more public money into them is a waste.

Ответ для Erin Butler

Perhaps the city should not have bought the Moda. I remember when Phil Knight wanted to buy the team and my god people were having seizures at the idea

Ответ для emma321

The city owning the arena is still a better deal than many struck across North America, especially for new buildings. Depends on who controls what, though, and how the debt is serviced. Different in Europe, where the threat of moving is extremely low, and often blocked outright.

I've been in PDX longer than the Blazers. We'd be okay without them.

Dundon should get the f out of Portland

Nope. They can leave. Buhbye.

They can fuck off.

I don’t see a viable market where he can move them to. The owners are not going to allow him to take them to Las Vegas or Seattle. They all want the bigger expansion fees.

Portland city council should’ve countered by insisting that the trailblazers not suck

Exact same bullshit Howard Schultz and then Clay Bennet pulled when moving the Sonics to OKC.

The lede: “[Blazers] officials repeatedly declined to offer specifics to city councilors, and [Blazers president of B.O.] declined reporters’ questions while leaving City Hall.”

or they can just go away